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Is the number of Lemmy users increasing?

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  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

    I don't even know what is fundamentally different between Lemmy and Piefed aside from Piefed's web interface. AFAIK, they're basically the same thing but Lemmy is primarily developed by a harmful douche. 🫤

    Is there any reason beside that to choose one or the other?

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    I put together this short list of benefits Piefed offers to regular users in response to one of our members at slrpnk asking about our future migration to it.

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    • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

      I wouldn't hold my breath, I'm on the Zulip (https://chat.piefed.social/ ) and Matrix chats and the migration script isn't really worked on by anyone.

      Instances like quokk.au just went nuclear and recreated their instances with Piefed when keeping the domain name.

      https://piefed.blahaj.zone/ went the subdomain route.

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      #139

      There's an open issue for migration script blockers on the codeberg. It looks like there might be more movement on that front now that 1.1 has been released.

      Also @[email protected]

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      • openstars@discuss.onlineO [email protected]

        PieFed, like Mbin, was written from the ground up, and in a totally different language than Lemmy.

        But it interoperates with Lemmy, so yeah it's very similar. Except the LARGE list of features that PieFed has that Lemmy lacks, and a handful of features that Lemmy still does better on.

        Moreover, Lemmy will likely not ever catch up to PieFed. One reason being that certain features are incompatible with the authoritarian mindset - e.g. when a moderator removes your content, why should you as the poster be notified of that fact?

        But also, PieFed is written in Python that is a heck of a lot easier to code in than Rust, so the fact that PieFed not only caught up to Lemmy but has already surpassed it in SO MANY ways is a strong indicator of its future success.

        But aside from the tankies building in tankie philosophy right into the core of the Lemmy software, it depends on whether someone wants those additional features or not. Like polls, flairs (both user and post), categories of communities, which btw are user customizable and shareable, combining all comments across all cross-posts (helping to reverse the fragmentation effect inherent in federated platforms), and so much more.

        I bet that if you tried out PieFed for a day, you'd fall in love with it. You can also do entirely different workflows with it, like trigger notifications to be sent to you that really helps you to stay on top of posts from communities that are very low-volume (and so have trouble making it into your Subscribed feed, like poetry rather than politics or worshipping Arch Linux), but those are likely to take more than a day to figure out - there's definitely a learning curve. Also note that ymmv with regard to the different apps not (yet!) fully utilizing all the features offered by the PieFed back-end.

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        Yeah.....I've had to do a LOT of work client-side in Tesseract to give Lemmy half the features Piefed has. Eventually I'm gonna start targeting Piefed, but there's some under the hood stuff I'm waiting to be resolved before I embark on that voyage. Mainly, I've heard that the main Piefed experience and the API are not 1:1 and not everything is exposed in the API. šŸ˜ž

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        • A [email protected]

          Its been at a pretty consistent 50k which means we retained 25% of the users from our peak. Its 37.5k at the moment with 1.8k on piefed. There is another 18k users once NodeBB federations integrates.

          Its a decent little community, enough to be self sufficient and enough for new users to feel like they arent joining a ghost town.

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          This is the sweet spot. After the initial teething pains but before the bigots and nazis take over.

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          • Q [email protected]

            Slowly going down. The learning curve is too steep for the general population (personal opinion, happy to debate).

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            I would love some sort of SSO identity provider on the fediverse. I mean, like not connected to any instances. That would make thing a bit easier.

            I never knew what .ml stood for.

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              they love to larp and not use their ml accounts in the hope that ml avoids being defederated

              long overdue

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              Blocking ml from my feed was one of the better decisions I've made on here.

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              • R [email protected]

                honest question because personally I'm not seeing it or maybe I'm just blinded to it but how is it worse? From what I've seen the moderation hasn't been anywhere near as heavy handed as on Reddit with the exception of nuking bots. Maybe because I'm just blocking certain instances that I'm not seeing it.

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                It's not. But mods generally just ban/threaten you if you post anything they disagree with. just like reddit. they have an agenda and if you are not on board with it 100% you are to be purged.

                for example i've been banned from multiple lemmy communities because I dared to disagreed with the 'autism/non NT make you superior' narrative quite a few communities here were pushing. or questioning the 'perfection' of Linux...

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                • B [email protected]

                  Reddit is written in Python. It was originally written is Common Lisp, but they rewrote it in Python since it is easier to find developers.

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                  That was a long time ago, I highly doubt it still is

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                  • P [email protected]

                    Replying to this to make the line go up

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                    Doing the same

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                    • reverendender@sh.itjust.worksR [email protected]

                      I finally motivated to start up a (hopefully) less biased, more international news community to combat the US-heavy dominance of .world. I loaded her up today. Guess we’ll see how it goes. I guarantee I don’t find motivation every day.

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                      Subscribed! Don't forget to publicise it on [email protected] [email protected] etc

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                      • D [email protected]

                        In recent weeks, I have posted an absolutely staggering amount of content on Lemmy.

                        My goal is simply to support the platform. I hate huge corporations.

                        Now I'm taking a break. I won't post anything or I'll post very little (I still feel a little guilty!! Who will post new content 😢?)

                        But I need to focus on improving my own life and relax.

                        However... I'm just curious.

                        Is the number of Lemmy users actually increasing, decreasing, or staying the same? Is that data even available?

                        Edit: I will still post stuff. I'll just post a lot less!

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                        Thank you for your service.

                        Also, thank you for asking. Yes, I'm increasing, and I'm eating more salads now to help prevent it, OK?

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                        • D [email protected]

                          In recent weeks, I have posted an absolutely staggering amount of content on Lemmy.

                          My goal is simply to support the platform. I hate huge corporations.

                          Now I'm taking a break. I won't post anything or I'll post very little (I still feel a little guilty!! Who will post new content 😢?)

                          But I need to focus on improving my own life and relax.

                          However... I'm just curious.

                          Is the number of Lemmy users actually increasing, decreasing, or staying the same? Is that data even available?

                          Edit: I will still post stuff. I'll just post a lot less!

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                          It appears that Twitter users are migrating to Bluesky, while simultaneously engaging with Reddit and Discord. Meanwhile, Reddit users are making their way to Lemmy or maybe not I exacly don't how but LEMMY IS GOING UPP.

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                          • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                            I think they give away their real complaint when they mentioned "anything to the right of far left" as if reddit only allows far left views.

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                            Have you not been on reddit in the last 5 years? It’s a highly censored, tightly controlled, far left echo chamber.

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                            • openstars@discuss.onlineO [email protected]

                              PieFed MAUs increased by 400% though - when lemm.ee went down a LOT of people abandoned Lemmy in favor of PieFed.

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                              wow piefed is kinda taking off šŸ™‚ Thats awesome.

                              Its not like we cant all get what we want. Some will want lemmy, some will want piefed, some will want mastodon/kbin/mbin/etc...etc... Posts/comments show up in all. Its nice to have options.

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                              • P [email protected]

                                C is easy as well.. For me, even more easy than python, as I read like 100x more C++ rather than python..

                                I don’t even bother to write python anymore 🤣 I let it generate by AI nowadays

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                                Honestly as long as its a "supported" language and well built, I would argue the language doesn't matter as much as its execution.

                                I make my $$ on python, but C/C++ is soooo much better than when I started back a couple of decades ago. both are "fast enough". Im glad there are people like you that like to work with the Cs of the world :).

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                                  This is the sweet spot. After the initial teething pains but before the bigots and nazis take over.

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                                  The bigots and nazis are already quarantined at exploding heads thankfully

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                                  • T [email protected]

                                    ā€œEverything I don’t like is tankieā€ freaks just love shoehorning ā€œtankiesā€ into everything it’s so funny

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                                    It's more tedious than funny, honestly

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      Have you not been on reddit in the last 5 years? It’s a highly censored, tightly controlled, far left echo chamber.

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                                      far left echo chamber

                                      Here we go again with people who call themselves right-wingers making themselves the victims.

                                      You want to explain how /r/Conservative bans anyone who has a different opinion? Or why /r/worldnews is controlled by AIPAC interests that support the genocide in Palestine through the terrorist IDF army. Or why /r/protectandserve is a heavily moderated far right-wing subreddit that supports police brutality?

                                      It's almost like people with fucked up views don't like to get told they're fucked up. Wow, what a revelation.

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                                        Its been at a pretty consistent 50k which means we retained 25% of the users from our peak. Its 37.5k at the moment with 1.8k on piefed. There is another 18k users once NodeBB federations integrates.

                                        Its a decent little community, enough to be self sufficient and enough for new users to feel like they arent joining a ghost town.

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                                        How can one obtain these numbers? Is there like a statistics website?

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                                        • F [email protected]

                                          Have you not been on reddit in the last 5 years? It’s a highly censored, tightly controlled, far left echo chamber.

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                                          Reddit is anything but far left. Only a conservative would think that

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