Is the number of Lemmy users increasing?
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Interesting that user counts are lower, but posts and comments are still going up. Hopefully, that doesn't mean more bot activity
People post and comment from other platforms like Piefed
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PieFed, like Mbin, was written from the ground up, and in a totally different language than Lemmy.
But it interoperates with Lemmy, so yeah it's very similar. Except the LARGE list of features that PieFed has that Lemmy lacks, and a handful of features that Lemmy still does better on.
Moreover, Lemmy will likely not ever catch up to PieFed. One reason being that certain features are incompatible with the authoritarian mindset - e.g. when a moderator removes your content, why should you as the poster be notified of that fact?
But also, PieFed is written in Python that is a heck of a lot easier to code in than Rust, so the fact that PieFed not only caught up to Lemmy but has already surpassed it in SO MANY ways is a strong indicator of its future success.
But aside from the tankies building in tankie philosophy right into the core of the Lemmy software, it depends on whether someone wants those additional features or not. Like polls, flairs (both user and post), categories of communities, which btw are user customizable and shareable, combining all comments across all cross-posts (helping to reverse the fragmentation effect inherent in federated platforms), and so much more.
I bet that if you tried out PieFed for a day, you'd fall in love with it. You can also do entirely different workflows with it, like trigger notifications to be sent to you that really helps you to stay on top of posts from communities that are very low-volume (and so have trouble making it into your Subscribed feed, like poetry rather than politics or worshipping Arch Linux), but those are likely to take more than a day to figure out - there's definitely a learning curve. Also note that ymmv with regard to the different apps not (yet!) fully utilizing all the features offered by the PieFed back-end.
I read this on Sh.itJust.Works and am now commenting from piefed.social.
I haven't dug in much but really like it.
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In recent weeks, I have posted an absolutely staggering amount of content on Lemmy.
My goal is simply to support the platform. I hate huge corporations.
Now I'm taking a break. I won't post anything or I'll post very little (I still feel a little guilty!! Who will post new content
?)But I need to focus on improving my own life and relax.
However... I'm just curious.
Is the number of Lemmy users actually increasing, decreasing, or staying the same? Is that data even available?
Edit: I will still post stuff. I'll just post a lot less!
I don't really have a whole lot of content to contribute. Although, I've been saving porn images, gifs, and videos to my hard drive for like... maybe about 2 decades? I've been thinking about posting some of that.
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WHAT!? I am genuinely curious why you think this?
For one thing PieFed was only centralized for a bit there at its start, whereas now there are already numerous piefed instances. It is true that piefed.social is still the #1 instance (much as lemmy.world had 80% of the Lemmy userbase at some point - but you still remain there even now so that does not seem to bother you?), but now piefed.blahaj.zone (not even 3 months old yet!!!!!), and piefed.world each have >100 active users, and piefed.ca, feddit.online, piefed.zip, quokk.au, piefed.au, etc. each have multiple tens of users.
More to the point, PieFed is FOSS. You could download the code and have your own personal instance spun up by the end of the day tomorrow.
I am guessing that you mean that the opinions of a single dev (Rimu) have an exagerated effect on the development of the code - which was definitely true in the past, but he also listens to feedback, apologies when he is wrong, and is amenable to going in other directions when the community wants that. The private voting debacle is one such example: I argued against it from the start, but he did it anyway, then abolished it and apologized to people when it received heavy criticism. You can read a really frank discussion about the topic where dbzer0 was considering whether to make a PieFed instance. Look especially at the comment starting with "I don’t trust Piefed at all - they’re far too eager to curate my experience, and they’ve reintroduced all of the reputation anti-features (plus more) that were part of what drove me away from Reddit and the absence of which is part of what I like about Lemmy and Mbin."
TLDR: it was a new project back then, and things were different. Also you might be unaware of the history of the development of Lemmy too, and of lemmy.world. These things are common, and nowhere close to be unique to PieFed. BlueSky on the other hand is corporate and so WILL be enshittified, eventually. PieFed on the other hand is just a better Lemmy :-).
that's a hard sell. gonna take a pass. thanks though.
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less funding plus more features isn't selling it. just means it's not maintainable long term.
besides my ick is more from the user base not the software. any if the piefed users I've ran across are trying to hard sell piefed. I don't like car salesmen, so it just gives me the ick.
less funding plus more features isn't selling it. just means it's not maintainable long term.
All the other instances survive across the Fediverse on less funding.
besides my ick is more from the user base not the software. any if the piefed users I've ran across are trying to hard sell piefed. I don't like car salesmen, so it just gives me the ick.
It's quite advanced in comparison to Lemmy in many ways, regardless of what you think of how people try to sell it.
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like ml is the same user base?
edit: or maybe hexbear?
Piefeds users don't tend to be tankies or campists, and Piefed.social itself is defederated from Hexbear and Lemmygrad.
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Instances like quokk.au just went nuclear and recreated their instances with Piefed when keeping the domain name.
Does that even work? Wouldn't that kinda break federation?
It worked 99.99%, the only issue was PieFed doesn't allow capitals in community names which meant one community broke as the name didn't match after being made lowercase.
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Ok I’ll bite. What are some good piefed instances to consider?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I like it because it's a lowkey anarchist server. Administration isn't as overbearing as some places, and you have a lot of freedom to do what you want. It's been active for 2 years and I know it's funded for another 2 at least. Plus smaller servers help spread the load (and hopefully load faster for you).
There's also anarchist.nexus, but they're not open for registration.
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That email comparison annoys the fuck out of me. How is any of this like email?
wrote last edited by [email protected]- Domain + Username
- email is also very flawed (think spam, and spoofing, etc)
- its federated
- people usually just pick one of the big platforms, but there are other options.
- email servers get banned from interoperating with the network all the time
The comparisons could go on. I’m sure there are contrasts too. But email is a point of reference most people know about. Unless they don’t have an email address. I guess.
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I like it because it's a lowkey anarchist server. Administration isn't as overbearing as some places, and you have a lot of freedom to do what you want. It's been active for 2 years and I know it's funded for another 2 at least. Plus smaller servers help spread the load (and hopefully load faster for you).
There's also anarchist.nexus, but they're not open for registration.
wrote last edited by [email protected]What level of anarchy are we talking here? (You and I tend to differ on some (not all) of our politics
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People post and comment from other platforms like Piefed
wrote last edited by [email protected]The posts and comments listed there are locally hosted total values (not per month)
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Interesting that user counts are lower, but posts and comments are still going up. Hopefully, that doesn't mean more bot activity
wrote last edited by [email protected]The graphs there for posts and comments are for count of posts on lemmy directly, total, not per month. The posts/month seems stagnant, although its hard to tell as the data shown there is burried by a couple of bot instances that completely hide the overall trend.
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What level of anarchy are we talking here? (You and I tend to differ on some (not all) of our politics
)A lowkey level
The admin is a lot less extreme than myself, and pretty accepting for most things outside of hate content. -
- Domain + Username
- email is also very flawed (think spam, and spoofing, etc)
- its federated
- people usually just pick one of the big platforms, but there are other options.
- email servers get banned from interoperating with the network all the time
The comparisons could go on. I’m sure there are contrasts too. But email is a point of reference most people know about. Unless they don’t have an email address. I guess.
wrote last edited by [email protected]And you think the average user thinks of ANY of this when they're using Lemmy for the first time so they must conclude "oh it's just like email"? This has absolutely nothing to do with using the platform.
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And you think the average user thinks of ANY of this when they're using Lemmy for the first time so they must conclude "oh it's just like email"? This has absolutely nothing to do with using the platform.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I answered your question about the similarities man. Settle down. You asked any and I gave you it. You didn’t ask for how it’s exactly like email.
Also, I think tech nerds tend to look down on others in this topic. “It’s too difficult, it’s too much to learn.” —- and thus it won’t be profitable? What are we worried about?
Activity pub and related networks didn’t just shrivel up and die right away due to this problem. I’m arguing with a stranger on the internet via a newer activity pub platform, in fact.
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In recent weeks, I have posted an absolutely staggering amount of content on Lemmy.
My goal is simply to support the platform. I hate huge corporations.
Now I'm taking a break. I won't post anything or I'll post very little (I still feel a little guilty!! Who will post new content
?)But I need to focus on improving my own life and relax.
However... I'm just curious.
Is the number of Lemmy users actually increasing, decreasing, or staying the same? Is that data even available?
Edit: I will still post stuff. I'll just post a lot less!
From what I've seen, no - the number of people actually regularly on here is going down, as I'm just seeing the same people more and more. When I use voyager you can see when your personal upvote/downvote score for every user on every one of their posts, and I'm mostly seeing people with a != 0 score, meaning I've interacted with their comments before. Means I'm not frequently seeing new people.
People like me who came here to escape the reddit bullshit of authoritarian power hungry mods and admins, insane censorship of anything right of "far left", and reinforcements of echo chambers through moderation, quickly found out that, if anything, Lemmy is already worse in some regards than reddit.
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From what I've seen, no - the number of people actually regularly on here is going down, as I'm just seeing the same people more and more. When I use voyager you can see when your personal upvote/downvote score for every user on every one of their posts, and I'm mostly seeing people with a != 0 score, meaning I've interacted with their comments before. Means I'm not frequently seeing new people.
People like me who came here to escape the reddit bullshit of authoritarian power hungry mods and admins, insane censorship of anything right of "far left", and reinforcements of echo chambers through moderation, quickly found out that, if anything, Lemmy is already worse in some regards than reddit.
It's definitely worse. I have only stayed because it isn't corporate bullshit. It's still shit though.
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https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats
Currently trending down. And it's all your fault for taking a break.
Replying to this to make the line go up
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It's definitely worse. I have only stayed because it isn't corporate bullshit. It's still shit though.
Yeah I'm only still here because it's something that still can have some decent conversations sometimes, and hey I'm always down for a good debate/argument with people of differing opinions. It's definitely not going to grow to any great heights without massive changes across the board though.
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Piefeds users don't tend to be tankies or campists, and Piefed.social itself is defederated from Hexbear and Lemmygrad.
you missed my whole point.
lemmy instances cultivate their own user base. piefed is no different. so not as they said, "the same user base".
