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Israel’s PM Netanyahu to visit Hungary despite ICC arrest warrant

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    Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban says he will not enforce the arrest warrant, issued for war crimes in Gaza.

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    The European Union needs to ditch this quasi-state.

    Fuck the US, fuck Russia, fuck China, and all these warmongering imperialists that want to subjugate the world to their oligarch elites.

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      Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban says he will not enforce the arrest warrant, issued for war crimes in Gaza.

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      Fascist friends.

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        The European Union needs to ditch this quasi-state.

        Fuck the US, fuck Russia, fuck China, and all these warmongering imperialists that want to subjugate the world to their oligarch elites.

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        Emotionally I agree, rationally I think I'd set a bad precedent if we give up on the Hungarians as people because we're fed up with the actions of their government. Would be more fair to have some kind of referendum: stay in EU and ditch Orban vs leave the EU and keep Orban

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          Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban says he will not enforce the arrest warrant, issued for war crimes in Gaza.

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          So a warrant for orban as well?

          These warrants aren’t very useful.

          I wonder what would happen if we gave them to American cops and tell them the query is a black man..

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            Emotionally I agree, rationally I think I'd set a bad precedent if we give up on the Hungarians as people because we're fed up with the actions of their government. Would be more fair to have some kind of referendum: stay in EU and ditch Orban vs leave the EU and keep Orban

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            The fact that he's still in power is the result of the referendum.

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              The fact that he's still in power is the result of the referendum.

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              I disagree, he's not still in power because he fairly won free elections time and again. The Hungarian democracy is broken, especially because the media and legal system are compromised. There is plenty of people wanting Hungary to be a democratic country part of the EU. The same goes for Serbia, where massive protests are showing that more clearly at the moment.

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                I disagree, he's not still in power because he fairly won free elections time and again. The Hungarian democracy is broken, especially because the media and legal system are compromised. There is plenty of people wanting Hungary to be a democratic country part of the EU. The same goes for Serbia, where massive protests are showing that more clearly at the moment.

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                There is plenty of people wanting Hungary to be a democratic country part of the EU.

                Maybe, but here's the thing: Even if you hold a free and fair referendum (which is doubtful), what are you gonna do with the result? The onus is still on the people of Hungary to depose Orban and return to democracy, and they haven't done that. Then what point is there to holding a referendum? It's not like Orban will quietly disappear if the referendum chooses the EU over him.

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                  There is plenty of people wanting Hungary to be a democratic country part of the EU.

                  Maybe, but here's the thing: Even if you hold a free and fair referendum (which is doubtful), what are you gonna do with the result? The onus is still on the people of Hungary to depose Orban and return to democracy, and they haven't done that. Then what point is there to holding a referendum? It's not like Orban will quietly disappear if the referendum chooses the EU over him.

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                  You're right, but the referendum wouldn't be about which action the voters want the Hungarian governmentment to take it would be about which action they want the EU to take. A government shouldn't be able to sabotage the wellbeing of it's people against their will. The EU should be there for the people, not it's government.

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                    You're right, but the referendum wouldn't be about which action the voters want the Hungarian governmentment to take it would be about which action they want the EU to take. A government shouldn't be able to sabotage the wellbeing of it's people against their will. The EU should be there for the people, not it's government.

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                    What can the EU do except expel Hungary or accept the status quo?

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                      What can the EU do except expel Hungary or accept the status quo?

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                      I agree this is a problem.

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