nah it's natural
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The scary thing is, this graph is probably far too conservative.
Evidence is now emerging that indicates that warming has accelerated dramatically in the last 2-3 years. As in, we may see more warming in the next 10 years than we have seen in the last 50, with +3℃ happening just after 2035, and +4℃ happening by some time around 2040 to 2050.
You know what happens around +4℃? The extinction of all megafauna - animals larger than 45kg. Like humans. The entire ⅓ of the planet between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn will experience lethally high wet bulb temperatures across all regions for at least several weeks out of every year, rendering it permanently uninhabitable for the 4+ Billion people that currently live there. India is currently flirting with that reality.
And with that heating inertia, 2100 may see +8℃ temps, which essentially means ice-free poles year round (once things calm down), with palm trees and alligators at the North Pole. Of course, by that time chaotic weather and resource exhaustion will have killed off all remaining humans.
And the lovely thing about “moving parts” is that they all have this little thing called inertia… the faster they move, the further they go. And +8℃ is very close to the +12-15℃ that a Venus Scenario would be triggered by.
Past warming events have been “similar” in that they have gotten just as warm, but they took hundreds of thousands of years to get to the same place, allowing entire continent-wide ecosystems to quite literally migrate across thousands of kilometers to adapt. Our changes are happening in less than 0.01% of that time scale, giving ecosystems no time at all in which to react. So our biosphere will get slaughtered along with us, and will be unable to compensate in time.
And with the biosphere becoming overwhelmed by rapid changes, there goes the “friction” that could do something about that “inertia”.
And the worst part is, we still haven’t moved off of the worst-case-possible “business as usual” path. We are swan-diving into the worst possible future. Thanks to billionaires addicted to fat profit margins and who control all of the processes, we are utterly failing to generate the change needed to save ourselves, with CO2e production - purely human sources, excluding the feedback loops in nature!! - CONTINUING TO ACCELERATE.
Fun times. I just might live long enough to see humanity go extinct.
I just finished reading The Deluge by Stephen Markley and I'm at the acceptance phase of greif.
Tardigrades will probably survive, and at least plastic pollution will be halted.
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Note that the "reactors" are, in-game, energy plants that convert literal life force into electricity.
Sorry the actual discourse hasnt risen above the level of thirty year old video games, it's really hard to tell sometimes.
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Honestly, the majority of what you listed isn't going to make any difference in the slightest even if literally everyone did it tomorrow.
Here's a completely random non-comprehensive list of stuff that would actually be pretty impactful though.
Upgrade your dryer to a heat pump dryer , they use 1/4 the amount of electricity to do the same job if literally everyone traded their electric dryer for the heat pump dryer it would dramatically reduce energy usage and thus also result in a dramatic drop in CO2 generation from various energy generation sources. You don't have to worry about your old dryer it is made of 90% material that actually gets recycled for real just drop it off at a scrap yard.
Use your compost bin actually start separating stuff for it properly . Most people don't make use of it, if you are particular waste Company does not offer composting then simply make a compost box somewhere on your property if you can and start composting there's a lot of things that just end up in the trash that could be compostable which would be better for it the environment and reduce the burden on the waste system.
Curb the demand for forever chemicals. Replace everything in your kitchen with stainless steel or wood or glass. No plastic or Teflon just learn to preheat your pans properly and use a little bit of oil the sticking of your eggs is nothing more than a skill issue I use stainless steel and I can make fried eggs that slide around like they're on ice. And not just the pots and pans replace all of your utensils plates bowls. It creates a small surge in waste initially as you get rid of the old stuff but as long as it's going forward you never purchase the plastics again it means demand will go down.
Those are just a couple completely random things that would be fairly simple and easy to do that would actually make a pretty drastic difference if even just 40% of the population would follow through but I speak from experience when I say if you attempt to get people on board with any of these they just can't be bothered because it's a slight minor inconvenience compared to what they already do
The beauty of composting is you don't even need to use it. It'll just turn into a dirt pile.
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The scary thing is, this graph is probably far too conservative.
Evidence is now emerging that indicates that warming has accelerated dramatically in the last 2-3 years. As in, we may see more warming in the next 10 years than we have seen in the last 50, with +3℃ happening just after 2035, and +4℃ happening by some time around 2040 to 2050.
You know what happens around +4℃? The extinction of all megafauna - animals larger than 45kg. Like humans. The entire ⅓ of the planet between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn will experience lethally high wet bulb temperatures across all regions for at least several weeks out of every year, rendering it permanently uninhabitable for the 4+ Billion people that currently live there. India is currently flirting with that reality.
And with that heating inertia, 2100 may see +8℃ temps, which essentially means ice-free poles year round (once things calm down), with palm trees and alligators at the North Pole. Of course, by that time chaotic weather and resource exhaustion will have killed off all remaining humans.
And the lovely thing about “moving parts” is that they all have this little thing called inertia… the faster they move, the further they go. And +8℃ is very close to the +12-15℃ that a Venus Scenario would be triggered by.
Past warming events have been “similar” in that they have gotten just as warm, but they took hundreds of thousands of years to get to the same place, allowing entire continent-wide ecosystems to quite literally migrate across thousands of kilometers to adapt. Our changes are happening in less than 0.01% of that time scale, giving ecosystems no time at all in which to react. So our biosphere will get slaughtered along with us, and will be unable to compensate in time.
And with the biosphere becoming overwhelmed by rapid changes, there goes the “friction” that could do something about that “inertia”.
And the worst part is, we still haven’t moved off of the worst-case-possible “business as usual” path. We are swan-diving into the worst possible future. Thanks to billionaires addicted to fat profit margins and who control all of the processes, we are utterly failing to generate the change needed to save ourselves, with CO2e production - purely human sources, excluding the feedback loops in nature!! - CONTINUING TO ACCELERATE.
Fun times. I just might live long enough to see humanity go extinct.
So I suppose I just have 15 more years to live huh?
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Imagine finding that people your own age ignored it too, like they're doing right now.
wrote last edited by [email protected]My employer, employing 90 people, a lot of which are in their 20s and 30s, has decided to organise the yearly seminar event in a place where most of the company needs to board a plane to go.
I immediately said I wouldn't go if I needed to take a plane, I was not the only one to say it. The company offered to reimburse any alternative journey (train+boat) which is a bit more expensive, but way way longer (14h transport vs 3h on plane, not taking into account the time in between train and ferry: I'll be traveling for more than 24h in total between start and end, and same for the return journey). I said I'd do it, the others that spoke out: not so much, they are either not coming or taking the plane... In the end I think I will be the only one, we'll see. -
So I suppose I just have 15 more years to live huh?
Yes there are some upsides
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increase in global temperature drastically increase the intensity of hurricanes, theres a theoretical type called a hypercane.
Which could destroy the ozone layer by pumping water into it, which would be very bad.
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A lot of ordinary people also say they want to do everything they can against climate change but then fail to make their own simple sacrafices like reusable cups, walking instead of driving, keeping the heat lower in winter etc. Everyone wants to end climate change but without sacraficing any modern conveniences
A lot of people can't avoid car travel because of car centric infrastructure. Of course, most of these people would also scream if you tried to fix car centric infrastructure.
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Note that the "reactors" are, in-game, energy plants that convert literal life force into electricity.
I like Joshua's answer here. The mental gymnastics is insane
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Not that renaming problems ever helps, but this is why I'm trying to push "anthropogenic runaway global heating" as a replacement for the weak formulation of "global warming" and the even weaker "climate change". It has the handy acronym of ARGH.
I'm just going to call it "the climate shitshow" at this point, with how cooked we seem to be.
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The scary thing is, this graph is probably far too conservative.
Evidence is now emerging that indicates that warming has accelerated dramatically in the last 2-3 years. As in, we may see more warming in the next 10 years than we have seen in the last 50, with +3℃ happening just after 2035, and +4℃ happening by some time around 2040 to 2050.
You know what happens around +4℃? The extinction of all megafauna - animals larger than 45kg. Like humans. The entire ⅓ of the planet between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn will experience lethally high wet bulb temperatures across all regions for at least several weeks out of every year, rendering it permanently uninhabitable for the 4+ Billion people that currently live there. India is currently flirting with that reality.
And with that heating inertia, 2100 may see +8℃ temps, which essentially means ice-free poles year round (once things calm down), with palm trees and alligators at the North Pole. Of course, by that time chaotic weather and resource exhaustion will have killed off all remaining humans.
And the lovely thing about “moving parts” is that they all have this little thing called inertia… the faster they move, the further they go. And +8℃ is very close to the +12-15℃ that a Venus Scenario would be triggered by.
Past warming events have been “similar” in that they have gotten just as warm, but they took hundreds of thousands of years to get to the same place, allowing entire continent-wide ecosystems to quite literally migrate across thousands of kilometers to adapt. Our changes are happening in less than 0.01% of that time scale, giving ecosystems no time at all in which to react. So our biosphere will get slaughtered along with us, and will be unable to compensate in time.
And with the biosphere becoming overwhelmed by rapid changes, there goes the “friction” that could do something about that “inertia”.
And the worst part is, we still haven’t moved off of the worst-case-possible “business as usual” path. We are swan-diving into the worst possible future. Thanks to billionaires addicted to fat profit margins and who control all of the processes, we are utterly failing to generate the change needed to save ourselves, with CO2e production - purely human sources, excluding the feedback loops in nature!! - CONTINUING TO ACCELERATE.
Fun times. I just might live long enough to see humanity go extinct.
The planet is fine it’s the people who are fucked
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@[email protected] When I saw the "Industrial Revolution" label next to the vertical increase in global temperatures, I couldn't help but recall of some text written in 1995 by a certain former math teacher, and how right he was about the Industrial Revolution's consequences...
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No,No, not continue as normal, actively contributing to and profiting of. And engaging in generational bickering; In fact telling kids (!) Yes! kids! That.. (checks notes)..they have autism (??) in response to them screaming att the old farts to do something. As if that was not enough, a guy painted his skin orange and spent his power on destroying climate research data. On actually hunting it down in Arctic stations to delete it.
The wealth that was "generated" was systematically funneled into symbols to a handful of senile males that never spent a penny, but for sometimes when they brunt a chunk of the gold on making sure every adult continues to bicker with their kids and continually actively release kilotons of carbon into the stratosphere as a "ritual".
Because even though we had clean propulsion and energy available, the insane carousel of madness could stop if we didn't ride the ton metal beasts every day and it's not far then before people realize that the wealth and power is all just symbolic. All just a number in a computer on Panama. An unphantomable number, to be sure, oh it is very, very unphantomable, but as a legacy goes, the new names for big numbers we had to invent -- it wasn't even that good? A googol of gold? Is that supposed to be a joke? Is really it so funny? Is calling one of the megacorporations "googlog" like.. a meme to them? Is this their "doge"? It's so dry, but it fits.. That they might just.. Find it funny to say. Guess it tends to happen with made up currency.
The worldslacht though, isn't even profitable any more in the symbolic sense. They have to pay for oil rigs, astroturfing, oil rigs, war, class war, culture war, media entertainment, fracking rigs, haulers, astroturfing, oil spills, new huge boats with a pool, art to write off tax with, and really it's all ending in a whimper as the entire golden age we should have had was swallowed by their immense greed. Movies are about oil and cars. Wars are about cars. Some culture wants to live in a house? No, your land is now a parking. Huge spaces, just a place where we store our ton metal beasts that chug benzenes and scream at the sky to move us walking distance. They have to be placed in a painted rectangle on a flat surface and we have a most important war over who has what painted square.
If you think we respect our metal beasts then no, we crush the ton metal beasts and build new ones constantly so we can have a little war over who has the newest and hottest model. It is said that person gets to mate more often. But I truly wonder what mates were gained this way.
It is cool to have larger vehicles, but only up to a specific point, if you share your ride then it is no longer a mating ritual. If you ride too many, you are instead redicculed. "Don't you have your own ton metal beast?" No, to really stand out with feathers cocked, you have to ride your metal beast alone. One person per beast. If you really need a mate to nest with get a really heavy or fast or flying metal beast, and use it to go alone. It signals status. Fuckability.
That you have your own several ton metal beast roaring, yes sometimes actually emptying the carbon in the sky directly when exploding the oil it apparently requires to propel tonnes of metal.. for one single guy (and sometimes a mate or two). This is the dream. This is true freedom. To spend incredible amounts to move several tons of metal, just to transport one guy a little more comfortably than if they went on a rail. Did I mention, by the way, that yes we actually had already invented rails. It just didn't make its way to America yet. It's... (checks notes again) ..too expensive.
Well they will all be dead soon, leaving only the kids with the aftermath of what seems like a party, but actually was only a mess that sincerely wasn't worth it as the profits of all work just sit there, completely unused potential to at least do something they would want with it. I mean something fun and stupid while they have the opportunity to actually do anything with the whole world as their playground. But like a child that does not want to share, its only purpose is to point out how much better than everyone else these senile few was.
And yeah that was a feverish century everyone else seemingly worshipped and adored these elite.. except the kids. And they were rediculed because they were autistic and adhd and all other institutional psychological distress, but of course never heard for their very clear "how dare you, shitheads?". The darned kids. But the legacy of the elite that forced the world to toil for oil will truly go down in history as utter tools. It is just sad that they mauled the planet into a death spiral that seems to end our species. It was kind of a childish thing to do, ironically.
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"The line must go up" or something like that
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The scary thing is, this graph is probably far too conservative.
Evidence is now emerging that indicates that warming has accelerated dramatically in the last 2-3 years. As in, we may see more warming in the next 10 years than we have seen in the last 50, with +3℃ happening just after 2035, and +4℃ happening by some time around 2040 to 2050.
You know what happens around +4℃? The extinction of all megafauna - animals larger than 45kg. Like humans. The entire ⅓ of the planet between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn will experience lethally high wet bulb temperatures across all regions for at least several weeks out of every year, rendering it permanently uninhabitable for the 4+ Billion people that currently live there. India is currently flirting with that reality.
And with that heating inertia, 2100 may see +8℃ temps, which essentially means ice-free poles year round (once things calm down), with palm trees and alligators at the North Pole. Of course, by that time chaotic weather and resource exhaustion will have killed off all remaining humans.
And the lovely thing about “moving parts” is that they all have this little thing called inertia… the faster they move, the further they go. And +8℃ is very close to the +12-15℃ that a Venus Scenario would be triggered by.
Past warming events have been “similar” in that they have gotten just as warm, but they took hundreds of thousands of years to get to the same place, allowing entire continent-wide ecosystems to quite literally migrate across thousands of kilometers to adapt. Our changes are happening in less than 0.01% of that time scale, giving ecosystems no time at all in which to react. So our biosphere will get slaughtered along with us, and will be unable to compensate in time.
And with the biosphere becoming overwhelmed by rapid changes, there goes the “friction” that could do something about that “inertia”.
And the worst part is, we still haven’t moved off of the worst-case-possible “business as usual” path. We are swan-diving into the worst possible future. Thanks to billionaires addicted to fat profit margins and who control all of the processes, we are utterly failing to generate the change needed to save ourselves, with CO2e production - purely human sources, excluding the feedback loops in nature!! - CONTINUING TO ACCELERATE.
Fun times. I just might live long enough to see humanity go extinct.
Yet "you have to have a car to work" like ok no for one fuck you for two we have several modes of transport AND energy sources now you actually do choose actively to diarrhea out carbon on purpose and I fucking see you
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Just like with debt, we can just raise the ceiling and the problem is fixed
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At what point on this graph is ecoterrorism justified?
but but but somebody was late for work!!!!! /s
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This is like the "both sides" argument in politics.
It resonates with people and encourages apathy supporting the status quo.
Its true that the actions of an individual aren't very impactful. Its also true that large corporations are responsible for the vast majority of the problem.
However, if no one bought products from those companies, or owned their shares, then they would exist.
While "no one" is not possible, what if everyone just used 5% less, or 5% of people switched to an "ethical" 401k / pension funds that didn't invest in these companies.
We dont need a few people doing climate mitigation perfectly, we need everyone doing climate mitigation imperfectly.
It sounds like such a small change, yet we're unable to achieve it.
For example, here in Australia our conservative party is presently trying to discard our pathetic carbon emissions targets saying they're unachievable.
Ah, but is it apathy to support the systematic teardown of these major sources? Like actually destroying private jets for instance
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It isn't too late now. Apparently AI is a good target - eating a world's supply of electricity to further enrich the billionaires while continuing to muddy the science of climate change. Wish people were as upset about that as they are about their porn being restricted.
You're selling AI short. It also guzzles water at a rate that could make a golf course blush.
