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I'm doing my part!

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  • L [email protected]

    Can I have a fucking plastic bendy straw now?

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    I'd rather have a regular one, no idea why you want a bendy straw that fucks.

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    • T [email protected]

      Honestly I don't give one shit about the paper straws. I wonder if the people who don't like them let their drinks sit for hours and chew on the straw till they're soggy. Every paper straw I've had has lasted the length of time it takes me to drink the drink.

      Still banning those things but not fucking everything else in the supermarket that is packaged in plastic is such a massive and stupid waste of everyone's time and effort. Such an imperceptible inch forward they almost deserve no praise at all.

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      It was a surprisingly fast change, to the extent that I wonder if they weren't planning something along those lines as an industry wide PR stunt or lobbied industry takeover already. Or maybe paper straw machines are just really easy to setup.

      It does show that widespread lasting change is possible. Even if it's just a single step, we won't get anywhere if we stop taking them.

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      • starman2112@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

        True, that honor belongs solely to metal. Glass is mostly recyclable, though most types of it that aren't bottles will just be thrown in the trash. Paper is in theory recyclable, but putting that in recycle bins is basically just as effective as putting plastic in. Neither of those actually helps as long as we're producing more and more paper and more and more glass every year. The only thing that helps is reducing production.

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        Paper can be composted or burnt, and will decompose relatively quickly if dumped. I can't see any post-use situation where paper is anywhere nearly as bad as plastic.

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        • tlaloc_temporal@lemmy.caT [email protected]

          It was a surprisingly fast change, to the extent that I wonder if they weren't planning something along those lines as an industry wide PR stunt or lobbied industry takeover already. Or maybe paper straw machines are just really easy to setup.

          It does show that widespread lasting change is possible. Even if it's just a single step, we won't get anywhere if we stop taking them.

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          The reality is more like there are just a few massive suppliers for restaurants. Sysco just offers paper straws and removes plastic ones and every establishment just orders a different SKU the next week.

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            I get the feeling this is somehow also criticizing this particular woman. Someone did a small good thing, while others do bad things on a very large scale. What a naive idiot! Not a very helpful sentiment. One needs to look up for moral guidance, not down.

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            I feel this is cooked up by energy company's in the same way that "snowballs in july" was but I'm not sure how.

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              It's not the woman that's being criticized, it's the people claiming that the ones not doing that bear all the blame for damaging the environment.

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              #103

              except it reads as if its all useless and dumb. I don't understand how people don't see this as that?

              It's not created to get people to be more on board with climate change policy. It's meant to point out that we just shouldn't do any of it.

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              • W [email protected]

                Private Jets are not the problem. The top 1% must be outlawed.

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                we're all online on a computer. Aren't we the global 1%?

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                • tlaloc_temporal@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                  Paper can be composted or burnt, and will decompose relatively quickly if dumped. I can't see any post-use situation where paper is anywhere nearly as bad as plastic.

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                  What does that have to do with the production of new paper? Deforestation remains an ever increasing problem. It's not as bad as plastic, but recycling it is just as futile

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                  • balderdash9@lemmy.zipB [email protected]
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                    Don't worry. When he recycles those jets next weekend he'll separate the plastics from the metals.

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                    • T [email protected]

                      Honestly I don't give one shit about the paper straws. I wonder if the people who don't like them let their drinks sit for hours and chew on the straw till they're soggy. Every paper straw I've had has lasted the length of time it takes me to drink the drink.

                      Still banning those things but not fucking everything else in the supermarket that is packaged in plastic is such a massive and stupid waste of everyone's time and effort. Such an imperceptible inch forward they almost deserve no praise at all.

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                      It is always "Look, we are actually trying to help the climate" types of government. Helping to build sustainable shit? Put money towards developing open, essy to implement, and easy to service standards? Nah, we will pay a billion dollars towards some bullshit that will be forgotten in a year and 80% (if not more) of the cash will be pocketed by billionaires (to use towards lobbying either against shit that will lose em money or shit that will make em money) because the contract was overpriced.

                      Fuck humanity, seriously. I just wish we will get a revolution before we burn to a crisp.

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                        #108

                        so what's the verdict on hot sauce and yogurt

                        edit i think i meant that for elsewhere but fuck this, that's a good headline in the image, and fuck this again

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                          we're all online on a computer. Aren't we the global 1%?

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                          It looks like about 68% of the world has internet access so I would say no. Source

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                            except it reads as if its all useless and dumb. I don't understand how people don't see this as that?

                            It's not created to get people to be more on board with climate change policy. It's meant to point out that we just shouldn't do any of it.

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                            I just don’t agree with you about that. I don’t think yours is a ridiculous read on it, I just don’t perceive that myself. I think the part you are mentioning is what you’re inferring, not what it’s implying or stating.

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                            • M [email protected]

                              except it reads as if its all useless and dumb. I don't understand how people don't see this as that?

                              It's not created to get people to be more on board with climate change policy. It's meant to point out that we just shouldn't do any of it.

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                              It does read useless but not necessarily dumb, just in vain. For me it acknowledges that we should put a lot more responsibility for the rich and powerful undermining our collective effort.

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                              • T [email protected]

                                Honestly I don't give one shit about the paper straws. I wonder if the people who don't like them let their drinks sit for hours and chew on the straw till they're soggy. Every paper straw I've had has lasted the length of time it takes me to drink the drink.

                                Still banning those things but not fucking everything else in the supermarket that is packaged in plastic is such a massive and stupid waste of everyone's time and effort. Such an imperceptible inch forward they almost deserve no praise at all.

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                                I wonder if the people who don't like them let their drinks sit for hours

                                Yes

                                and chew on the straw till they're soggy

                                No

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                                  Private Jets are not the problem. The top 1% must be outlawed.

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                                  I would say both. Multifaceted approach. If there’s a legitimate use case for private jets, maybe they could be allowed once we’ve transitioned to clean energy.

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                                    I just don’t agree with you about that. I don’t think yours is a ridiculous read on it, I just don’t perceive that myself. I think the part you are mentioning is what you’re inferring, not what it’s implying or stating.

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                                    Part of the reason is because the first place I saw posts like this was on right wing spaces. They were often trying to say how climate activists like Greta or Bill Nye or even celebrities that try to push climate action are also using private jets or other modes of transportation to get around.

                                    On the surface it sounds good. But I guarantee you this is a primer.

                                    It's a way to target climate activists and force them to target by bicycle. It's goal is to make any climate action hypocritical.

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                                    • tensilespark@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

                                      It looks like about 68% of the world has internet access so I would say no. Source

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                                      And they also would own a computer and likely a rental or mortgage. You only need to be making $60000 a year to be considered the global 1%

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                                      • T [email protected]

                                        The reality is more like there are just a few massive suppliers for restaurants. Sysco just offers paper straws and removes plastic ones and every establishment just orders a different SKU the next week.

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                                        #116

                                        The manufacture of straws on that scale can't be simple to ramp up though. Maybe they just speculated correctly on paper utensil production capacity?

                                        Either way, there are opportunities for fast large scale change out there.

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                                        • starman2112@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                                          What does that have to do with the production of new paper? Deforestation remains an ever increasing problem. It's not as bad as plastic, but recycling it is just as futile

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                                          Recycling paper (or not recycling) is far better than plastic is every respect. It's not so much futility in this case so much as inefficiency.

                                          Paper also is rarely, if ever, fully recycled, usually being downcycled into rougher and rougher materials like cardboard and egg cartons. No matter how well it gets recycled, it's not going to displace primary production.

                                          If you want to talk about futility here, the problem is way bigger than recycling. It's consumerism, unrestrained capitalism, and ROI of power now vs power later. No amount of recycling of any quality will fix the world alonge but it is one step of many.

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