I'm doing my part!
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I'm kinda to the point where it feels like nothing us normies do will change anything so until billionaires are illegal it's basically like fuck it.
Eating one billionaire would do more for the environment than all the conservation and recycling we do
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My nest app tells me the same, while there’s a strip mall of 8 stores with neon bright signs that stay on 24/7 directly across from my apt balcony. I’d have a great view of the mountains in the AC but nah the fuckin tanning salon deserves that juice
A while ago, when the energy crisis was in full swing, I emailed a corporation that owns a large office building in town, that's completely covered with a light display (basically tower-scale christmas lights) that they should please turn off that energy waster.
Their response was like "Our lighting is eco-friendly, because once a month we turn it green to show our commitment to green energy, and that offsets all the energy consumption."
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Being ecologically friendly is its own reward.
If your neighbor's house and lawn is cluttered with garbage and rotting food, do you also let your house gather the same?
Or do you wish they did a better job and kept your house clean all the same?
What if you had 95 neighbors all full of garbage and rotted food? Is there any number that would make you do the same?
Not quite a compare - you can move house, you can't move planet. It's not that I would stop looking after my own garden if my neighbours weren't looking after theirs. It just feels pointless. Using your analogy, if all surrounding neighbours had rotten rubbish in their garden, no matter what you would do, it would still stink in your garden.
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This is exactly why I don't beat myself up over any of this shit... I will do what I can within my own power, but I don't go out of my way to stop using plastic forks or anything like that. It's pointless.
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except it reads as if its all useless and dumb. I don't understand how people don't see this as that?
It's not created to get people to be more on board with climate change policy. It's meant to point out that we just shouldn't do any of it.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah, no amount of propaganda is going to get me to stop understanding math. Nothing I do as an individual will ever be even a molecule in a drop in a bucket.
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Benefits of trying to go zero plastic is: you can eat healthier. No highly processed food, sodas and all this industrial shit. It's mostly fresh fruits, veggies, cereals, and once in a while, a bit of meat straight from the butcher or local market.
And ok, you can't be sure it wasn't wrapped in plastic until it arrived in your kitchen, but at least, you have less garbage to throw out. -
Not quite a compare - you can move house, you can't move planet. It's not that I would stop looking after my own garden if my neighbours weren't looking after theirs. It just feels pointless. Using your analogy, if all surrounding neighbours had rotten rubbish in their garden, no matter what you would do, it would still stink in your garden.
I hear this argument over and over again:
"Why should I bother recycling? China is poisoning the planet."
It's like reverse-whataboutism.
I find it really lazy and a pointless attitude.
The argument generalizes to:
"Why do anything good when bad exists in the world?"Cleanliness is its own reward.
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Yeah, no amount of propaganda is going to get me to stop understanding math. Nothing I do as an individual will ever be even a molecule in a drop in a bucket.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I fucking can't with this fucking shit.
Like why the fuck do I need to explain to you how everyone doing something makes the impact. Nobody is expecting you to do it alone. Like why do you place that burden to explain something like that on others. An absolute tragedy you have a brain that produces a thought like this. I'm just fucking embarrassed for your parents honestly. -
IIRC plastic recycling is basically bullshit (except maybe PET bottles?) but aluminum is actually effective. Makes you wonder why we don't use more aluminum packaging in general.
Even the aluminum containers are coated with plastic (soda cans, for example)
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I appreciate your recycling efforts. I'm in Chicago where recycling rates are horrible. I'm building a plan to improve recycling rates for next year, but I still have a lot of work to do in terms of the system regarding transparency and user-friendliness.
Are you in a position with the power to implement this?
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Not quite a compare - you can move house, you can't move planet. It's not that I would stop looking after my own garden if my neighbours weren't looking after theirs. It just feels pointless. Using your analogy, if all surrounding neighbours had rotten rubbish in their garden, no matter what you would do, it would still stink in your garden.
If you had 95 messy roommates would you not clean the kitchen sink?
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This is exactly why I don't beat myself up over any of this shit... I will do what I can within my own power, but I don't go out of my way to stop using plastic forks or anything like that. It's pointless.
It feels pointless until a corporate drone tells you that you are a part of the problem and about a new law designed to punish you for taking "shortcuts" in life. Like I have to pay an additional tax in my area to help salmon streams but a few miles away is an oil refinery that gets tax breaks yet the water surrounding them is devoid of life... somehow I'm a part of the problem and I have to pay for it.
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I'm kinda to the point where it feels like nothing us normies do will change anything so until billionaires are illegal it's basically like fuck it.
Sounds like the wrong thing is being fucked.
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Benefits of trying to go zero plastic is: you can eat healthier. No highly processed food, sodas and all this industrial shit. It's mostly fresh fruits, veggies, cereals, and once in a while, a bit of meat straight from the butcher or local market.
And ok, you can't be sure it wasn't wrapped in plastic until it arrived in your kitchen, but at least, you have less garbage to throw out.Not to mention avoiding plastic leeching.
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Are you in a position with the power to implement this?
To start a benefit corporation I don't need be in a position of power. I will eventually need investor money though to scale.
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9,769km from California to Venice one way which equates to 976.9kg of carbon per person
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I fucking can't with this fucking shit.
Like why the fuck do I need to explain to you how everyone doing something makes the impact. Nobody is expecting you to do it alone. Like why do you place that burden to explain something like that on others. An absolute tragedy you have a brain that produces a thought like this. I'm just fucking embarrassed for your parents honestly.wrote last edited by [email protected]You don't need to explain anything, I fully understand the angle. It's just bullshit and you bought the lie.
Every single American could stop using plastic straws tomorrow, and the outcome would be negligible compared to what would happen if a single fossil fuel corporation shut down.
Any real, viable solution to climate change necessarily begins with corporate regulation. Their effect on the environment is several orders of magnitude higher than any other group. To the point where the damage they do completely overshadows any possible good that individual humans could ever do.
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You don't need to explain anything, I fully understand the angle. It's just bullshit and you bought the lie.
Every single American could stop using plastic straws tomorrow, and the outcome would be negligible compared to what would happen if a single fossil fuel corporation shut down.
Any real, viable solution to climate change necessarily begins with corporate regulation. Their effect on the environment is several orders of magnitude higher than any other group. To the point where the damage they do completely overshadows any possible good that individual humans could ever do.
Plastic straws isn't to fix climate change. It was a solution to help reduce these straws from ending up in the environment and causing impacts to marine life. It did accomplish a reduction in risk to marine life and all it took was being an adult and buying your own reusable straw.
You bought the lie
You're right about corporations need to make the change. But your wrong about the rest
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Plastic straws isn't to fix climate change. It was a solution to help reduce these straws from ending up in the environment and causing impacts to marine life. It did accomplish a reduction in risk to marine life and all it took was being an adult and buying your own reusable straw.
You bought the lie
You're right about corporations need to make the change. But your wrong about the rest
wrote last edited by [email protected]Math isn't a lie.
But whatever lets you get to sleep at night I guess.
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Math isn't a lie.
But whatever lets you get to sleep at night I guess.
What's the math?
