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I'm doing my part!

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  • jaennaet@sopuli.xyzJ [email protected]

    the recycling system is broken and often just a complete lie in many places in the world.

    In many places in the world, or mainly the US? I keep seeing this claim repeated but usually any proof is just about the US

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    Germany is doing okayish:

    Source (PDF)

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    • L [email protected]

      Even if most every day people would lower their carbon footprint as much as possible, corporations would simply say "Neat, we can pollute more, we're within target emissions", and they would

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      Microsoft is literally buying and pumping shit in the ground to offset carbon produced by their useless AI. It's ridiculous

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      • swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deS [email protected]

        notice how you're immediately moving the goalposts: you're not talking about an individual separating packaging, you're talking about the industrial process.

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        I'm just speaking as someone who does carefully separate everything, only to watch the truck put it all the same place. My individual actions mean fuck all if the rest of the process doesn't work.

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          Got a source on that “most”? The ones around here DEFINITELY don’t do that.

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          What proof do you have that your waste is being processed correctly? I have proof mine is not and plenty of news reporting from across the US in the last 5 years that says consumer curbside recycling is basically dead.

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            What proof do you have that your waste is being processed correctly? I have proof mine is not and plenty of news reporting from across the US in the last 5 years that says consumer curbside recycling is basically dead.

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            Im calling you out for your claim that most places dump it all in the same truck. While it is true that a lot of plastic gets thrown away by the recycler, that is absolutely not true for metal, glass, and paper.

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              You know what's also shitty about recycling? The companies that pick that up bin in some areas throw it in another bin which gets shipped to an "out of country" recycling company to make it someone else's problem. In the shipping process, that plastic falls off into the ocean making a worse problem now than just throwing it into regular waste management. Also, the process to recycle is more toxic than just throwing it away because the companies use really old processes; like paper for example. I gave up recycling except for metals.

              edit: I guess i forgot to add "In the US" for the Europeans. Yeah, it's a US problem and nowhere else does this happen I guess.

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              Glass is good too AFAIK

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                The thing is just that its not that one woman, but hundreds of millions if not billions of people that follow trash separation rules.
                This would actually have a pretty large effect, however sadly the recycling system is broken and often just a complete lie in many places in the world.

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                Isn't it somewhere like only 1% of the recycling stuff actually getting recycled? The rest goes to some kind of landfill to a poor country that decides to take it. I saw this in some documentary

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                  Even better: compost the rich!

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                  Burn the rich so we don't introduce prion diseases to the soil!

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                    The latter half of your comment is why I dont even bother. The "recycling" here is picked up and dumped into the same truck, there is no separation facility, just a landfill/incinerator.

                    Im not paying extra to lie to myself.

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                    We have separate trucks here, but I was behind the recycling truck one day and watched it pull into the landfill.

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                    • gloomy@mander.xyzG [email protected]

                      Germany is doing okayish:

                      Source (PDF)

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                      Arent they still off-sourcing the actual recycling to a 3rd world country?

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                        Isn't it somewhere like only 1% of the recycling stuff actually getting recycled? The rest goes to some kind of landfill to a poor country that decides to take it. I saw this in some documentary

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                        For plastics, pretty much. The thing about plastic recycling is that it's more expensive that making new plastic, and the recycled stuff is lower quality and unsuitable for many uses.

                        Metal.recycling, especially aluminum, makes economic sense and does better.

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                          We have separate trucks here, but I was behind the recycling truck one day and watched it pull into the landfill.

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                          I remember my home district had one spot that handled both trash and recycling, so maybe there’s a chance of it still getting somewhere useful.

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                            Private Jets MUST be outlawed

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                            • D [email protected]

                              But about 15 years ago China stopped buying the waste

                              Guess where that waste used to go

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                              Don't be that smart ass that thinks he's cool and guarding some super secret information, and he only speaks in riddles and leading questions.

                              Everybody knows where that plastic went.

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                              • siresly@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                It's a fair observation and very agreeable when the intent is to focus deserved ire on the primary element responsible for the wretched state of the world. But this could also be used to absolve oneself of inaction, deny any personal responsibility, to justify exhibiting similar selfish behavior oneself, or to feel smug about demoralizing or shitting on people who seek to improve society somewhat.

                                As the meme itself implies, the exploitation class is the problem that needs to be addressed. No need for anyone else to catch strays.

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                                I think most of us understand that, and you're just being obnoxious for pointing it out.

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                                  Isn't it somewhere like only 1% of the recycling stuff actually getting recycled? The rest goes to some kind of landfill to a poor country that decides to take it. I saw this in some documentary

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                                  about 21% of recyclables across the us: https://recyclingpartnership.org/residential-recycling-report/

                                  as low as 9% in some states and as high as 34% in one of them

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                                    I remember my home district had one spot that handled both trash and recycling, so maybe there’s a chance of it still getting somewhere useful.

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                                    Nope, I've been to the landfill plenty of times, and there's no separate spot for recycling. The company that picks up the recycling is a private company not affiliated with the municipality.

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                                    • tetris11@feddit.ukT [email protected]

                                      Arent they still off-sourcing the actual recycling to a 3rd world country?

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                                      Nah, at least not most of them. Electronics recycling however is one where i wouldnt be surprised if it gets offloaded to elsewhere.

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                                        Slightly off topic, but I find it goddamn funny that someone like MrBeast made a bootleg copy of squid game on his YouTube channel, considering the entire point of the programme was to show that billionaires will do whatever evil they please and get away without any single negative consequence. Not that the premise was too subtle, considering that the villains use humans as literal footrests. How someone can be this tone deaf or uncaring is beyond my understanding.

                                        Edit: I just remembered it's the guy selling kids highly processed food with rotten cheese on top. So, considering that, I'm not too surprised. Just slightly.

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                                        • U [email protected]

                                          The thing is just that its not that one woman, but hundreds of millions if not billions of people that follow trash separation rules.
                                          This would actually have a pretty large effect, however sadly the recycling system is broken and often just a complete lie in many places in the world.

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                                          Recycling (edit: besides metal) does literally nothing, like it's actually 0% helpful, as long as we're producing more plastic than ever before every single year. We're closing in on 500 million tonnes of plastic produced—not total, produced—annually. Every single person can put every single piece of plastic in the recycling bin, and we'll still have more plastic than existed 50 years ago. There are many things that individual action can accomplish, and this is not one of them. We need legislation for this.

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