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    This is a genuine question in regards to medical exams for women. Honestly, how often does the timing of your cycle have a direct correlation to the symptoms or conditions you are suffering when you go to the doctor?

    I'm just curious, based on knowing how women's symptoms aren't always taken as seriously as a man's during diagnosis. I'm sure that it has some relation sometimes, but I would love to hear the perspective and experiences that women have had with this.

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    I’m just curious, based on knowing how women’s symptoms aren’t always taken as seriously as a man’s during diagnosis.

    I just ask it as part of the standard 'check everything' mentality. It's interesting to me how it can be taken as women's symptoms not being taken as seriously as men's, because ignoring the downstairs leads to a lot of fuckups in the field. Heck, the paramedic who trained me used to say that you would (and I'm doing my best to remember her quote, but it's been a while) "miss a significant portion of issues if you fail[ed] to consider the reproductive system in an emergency." Put another way, the entire reason I'm asking about it is because I'm trying not to lump a woman in with the males and ignore their health.

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      No seriousness here, but if the patient was in the doctor's office, I'd ask the same question. Maybe not as the first question, but it would be in there. She's not in any significant trouble if she came to the appointment on time, so let's check and see how her epic battle has affected each system, from neurological to reproductive. That is why she's here, right? For a followup that every single (/roll_eyes) discharge paperwork always says to get?

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        What does the menstrual cycle have to do with their medical condition in any situation not related to reproduction?

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        In this particular context: CT scans, Xrays, opioids, things I can't think of because I'm not a doctor. Anything that could affect a pregnancy that the patient may not know about and want to carry to term. In locations with restrictive laws, those are also things that can get the doctor sued, imprisoned, or stripped of their license if they do them.

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          I have a uterus and I never get asked this question unless I'm at the gyn or specifically in for lower abdominal pain. I wonder if it has anything to do with living in a country that isn't rolling back abortion rights.

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            In this particular context: CT scans, Xrays, opioids, things I can't think of because I'm not a doctor. Anything that could affect a pregnancy that the patient may not know about and want to carry to term. In locations with restrictive laws, those are also things that can get the doctor sued, imprisoned, or stripped of their license if they do them.

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            I asked if it made sense to ask the question, not what bizarre laws are removing women's autonomy, because that's what the joke is making fun of in the first place. The woman's life is in danger and they're delaying care with a trick question, not asking whether she could be pregnant.

            I've had all of those things, including being prescribed opiods, and have never been asked when my last period was. But I don't live in the states.

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              Women does loose blood as part of the menstrual cycle.

              Blood tends to be pretty important in terms of health

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              I don't even know where to start with this one.

              First of all, the signs of anemia are apparent to any doctor without asking about the last period. Secondly, menstruation doesn't cause anemia because very little blood is actually lost over the course of a 5-7 days. Thirdly, yes, a rare few women can experience more substantial blood loss during menstruation, but that's a whole separate thing that is a reproductive issue. And, in the case of having been attacked by a dragon, way less of a concern, a concern that isn't addressed by the question: "When was your last period."

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                I’m just curious, based on knowing how women’s symptoms aren’t always taken as seriously as a man’s during diagnosis.

                I just ask it as part of the standard 'check everything' mentality. It's interesting to me how it can be taken as women's symptoms not being taken as seriously as men's, because ignoring the downstairs leads to a lot of fuckups in the field. Heck, the paramedic who trained me used to say that you would (and I'm doing my best to remember her quote, but it's been a while) "miss a significant portion of issues if you fail[ed] to consider the reproductive system in an emergency." Put another way, the entire reason I'm asking about it is because I'm trying not to lump a woman in with the males and ignore their health.

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                If I was being taken to the hospital for a non-reproductive emergency and the paramedic asked me when my last period was, I would ask for a different ambulance.

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                  Damn, if that ain’t affirming though lol.

                  My non-binary friend was telling me that they felt kinda like the doctors weren’t taking them seriously and I’m like “Congratulations! Also that sucks.”

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                  That reminds me of a friend who was a PhD level physicist who said "well, men have started to explain my own research to me, so I think that means I'm passing?"

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                  • C [email protected]

                    I don't even know where to start with this one.

                    First of all, the signs of anemia are apparent to any doctor without asking about the last period. Secondly, menstruation doesn't cause anemia because very little blood is actually lost over the course of a 5-7 days. Thirdly, yes, a rare few women can experience more substantial blood loss during menstruation, but that's a whole separate thing that is a reproductive issue. And, in the case of having been attacked by a dragon, way less of a concern, a concern that isn't addressed by the question: "When was your last period."

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                    Very good points, it is clear that my assumptions are not accurate, I will stick to what I know, and keep working in IT and leave healthcare to the doctors

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                      If bears are known to be attracted to menstruation, why would it be so outlandish to think that dragons might be, as well?

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                        I have a uterus and I never get asked this question unless I'm at the gyn or specifically in for lower abdominal pain. I wonder if it has anything to do with living in a country that isn't rolling back abortion rights.

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                        You should find a new gym.

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                          If I was being taken to the hospital for a non-reproductive emergency and the paramedic asked me when my last period was, I would ask for a different ambulance.

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                          They do it to determine whether someone could be pregnant because if they give you any drugs that could harm a foetus they could be sued. It's an important question for all parties' safety.

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                            Thank health insurance lawyers for that. Unintentionally terminating a pregnancy or causing a birth defect is prohibitively expensive for healthcare providers. If we could all agree not to sue for malpractice, doctors would be more free to use their own judgement. Of course, the more doctors you know, the less comforting that thought might be.

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                            Yeah, that's not a safe agreement to make. Even in saner countries.

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                              They do it to determine whether someone could be pregnant because if they give you any drugs that could harm a foetus they could be sued. It's an important question for all parties' safety.

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                              The last period has little to do with whether someone is pregnant. Why not just ask if someone is pregnant? Would they not give me those drugs if I was unconscious in case it harms a surprise baby? Furthermore, if I'm in rough enough shape to need an ambulance I should hope saving my life comes first, before a pregnancy I might not be aware of, and might not even want.

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                                If bears are known to be attracted to menstruation, why would it be so outlandish to think that dragons might be, as well?

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                                This is a myth that keeps a lot of women out of remote and forestry jobs. To this day older men still warn me about bears when I'm hiking and camping. It's based in assumptions, not facts, like a lot of comments in here.

                                I say this as a woman who's waved at bears during my seven forestry contracts.

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                                  Nah. First question is “do you have insurance?”

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                                    The last period has little to do with whether someone is pregnant. Why not just ask if someone is pregnant? Would they not give me those drugs if I was unconscious in case it harms a surprise baby? Furthermore, if I'm in rough enough shape to need an ambulance I should hope saving my life comes first, before a pregnancy I might not be aware of, and might not even want.

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                                    They're not going ask if someone is actively dying obviously, but if they're in a position where they can ask those questions and the patient is able to answer then they could be seen as liable for a miscarriage if they don't ask and they give something harmful.

                                    It's about protecting themselves. For example, I was a man working in childcare and I always had to be careful with my interactions with children and to minimise the times I was ever alone with a child as much as possible, because people can and will assume the worst about men in a position of power over children. So I can understand people doing everything in their power to protect themselves, even if they have to ask questions other people may be annoyed by.

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                                      This is a myth that keeps a lot of women out of remote and forestry jobs. To this day older men still warn me about bears when I'm hiking and camping. It's based in assumptions, not facts, like a lot of comments in here.

                                      I say this as a woman who's waved at bears during my seven forestry contracts.

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                                      In my case, it was just a dumb reference to the movie Anchorman. I didn't realize anyone actually believed it.

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                                        They're not going ask if someone is actively dying obviously, but if they're in a position where they can ask those questions and the patient is able to answer then they could be seen as liable for a miscarriage if they don't ask and they give something harmful.

                                        It's about protecting themselves. For example, I was a man working in childcare and I always had to be careful with my interactions with children and to minimise the times I was ever alone with a child as much as possible, because people can and will assume the worst about men in a position of power over children. So I can understand people doing everything in their power to protect themselves, even if they have to ask questions other people may be annoyed by.

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                                        It still doesn't change the fact that the last period date has very little to do with whether a woman is pregnant.

                                        Yes, I understand there is a reason for it borne of a clusterfuck of policy, lack of reproductive education and little respect for women's autonomy over their own bodies. That's what the meme is making fun of in the first place.

                                        I live in a country with less restrictive policies on women and get by just fine without being asked this question.

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                                          In my case, it was just a dumb reference to the movie Anchorman. I didn't realize anyone actually believed it.

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                                          I did not realize that was a quote. And well, gestures at the rest of the comments and world.

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