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UK: Fears China could 'switch off' wind farm off coast of Aberdeen

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  • F [email protected]

    There have been umpteen reports about Russia sabotaging underwater power/telecom cables:

    https://news.google.com/search?q=russia cable&hl=en-GB&gl=GB&ceid=GB%3Aen

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    And how is china involved here?

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      WW3

      Why is Britain so technologically inept that they can't imagine taking back control?

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      Ftr, iirc, 80% of German offshore wind farms are part-owned by Chinese corporations too and it's not completely clear how many of these Chinese owners can remotely turn off the turbines.

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        And how is china involved here?

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        Fair enough. Though at least two of the ships were under Chinese flags (ZH and HK) -- although that may not mean much. Next: It's not exactly "infrastructure", but it appears likely that Northvolt was sabotaged by a Chinese manufacturer of production machinery. And from what I can tell, China supports Russian war efforts, in a bid to make the case for their One China-Taiwan takeover.

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          Fair enough. Though at least two of the ships were under Chinese flags (ZH and HK) -- although that may not mean much. Next: It's not exactly "infrastructure", but it appears likely that Northvolt was sabotaged by a Chinese manufacturer of production machinery. And from what I can tell, China supports Russian war efforts, in a bid to make the case for their One China-Taiwan takeover.

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          China supports Russian war efforts, in a bid to make the case for their One China-Taiwan takeover.

          In official statements China has been against the Russian invasion, and that is more than can be said for the US currently.

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            China supports Russian war efforts, in a bid to make the case for their One China-Taiwan takeover.

            In official statements China has been against the Russian invasion, and that is more than can be said for the US currently.

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            That's some funky whataboutism. I don't think I talked about the hostility of the new US admin. Or did I?

            The current US admin would be a very low bar to clear, to boot. But afaik, even they are currently not buying a bunch Russian gas or filing up the spots left vacant through EU sanctions in the Russian market, neither are they delivering drones and electronics to Russia. Russia is basically a big dumb gas station at this point (granted, they have steel and Uranium too) -- they wouldn't stand a chance to fight this war on their own, without ambivalent/opportunist/supporting forces.

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              That's some funky whataboutism. I don't think I talked about the hostility of the new US admin. Or did I?

              The current US admin would be a very low bar to clear, to boot. But afaik, even they are currently not buying a bunch Russian gas or filing up the spots left vacant through EU sanctions in the Russian market, neither are they delivering drones and electronics to Russia. Russia is basically a big dumb gas station at this point (granted, they have steel and Uranium too) -- they wouldn't stand a chance to fight this war on their own, without ambivalent/opportunist/supporting forces.

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              I am mentioning the US because EU cannot current or in the next 10 years be independent.

              But afaik, even they are currently not buying a bunch Russian gas or filing up the spots left vacant through EU sanctions in the Russian market, neither are they delivering drones and electronics to Russia.

              Yeah they are delivering theirs to Israel. You know the country commiting a genocide they couldn't even hide from the ICJ.

              I would love Europe independence, but if I had to choose US or China the answer is the not fascist one.

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                I am mentioning the US because EU cannot current or in the next 10 years be independent.

                But afaik, even they are currently not buying a bunch Russian gas or filing up the spots left vacant through EU sanctions in the Russian market, neither are they delivering drones and electronics to Russia.

                Yeah they are delivering theirs to Israel. You know the country commiting a genocide they couldn't even hide from the ICJ.

                I would love Europe independence, but if I had to choose US or China the answer is the not fascist one.

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                Can you stay on topic? Like at all? You brought up the US. For seemingly no reason whatsoever.

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                  There have been umpteen reports about Russia sabotaging underwater power/telecom cables:

                  https://news.google.com/search?q=russia cable&hl=en-GB&gl=GB&ceid=GB%3Aen

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                  Russia is not China

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                    Russia is not China

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                    There's a parallel thread already. But you're partially right -- China appears to be less outwardly involved in sabotage against the EU.

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                    • F [email protected]

                      China (and Russia) have actively been sabotaging European infrastructure as we have seen in the recent couple of years

                      Out of the loop here. What happened?

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                      There are several reports on that, e.g., this one:

                      Strangers on a Seabed: Sino-Russian Collaboration on Undersea Cable Sabotage Operations

                      • Recent suspicious activities conducted by the merchant vessels Shunxing-39 and Vasili Shukshin in the vicinity of Taiwan in early 2025 suggest possible collaboration between Chinese and Russian merchant ships related to the reconnaissance and sabotage of undersea communications cables that connect Taiwan to the outside world.
                      • Such activities follow from suspected undersea infrastructure sabotage operations conducted by Chinese merchant vessels in the Baltic Sea in 2023–2024, with strong indications of Russian assistance and coordination.
                      • Taken as a whole, this string of incidents suggests an increasing willingness by Moscow and Beijing to collaborate on maritime sabotage operations—include on attacks on third-party targets.

                      [Edit typo.]

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