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  • E [email protected]

    Approaching the end of window 10 and have no plans on upgrading to 11.

    I am trying to find alternatives to applications I regularly use before jumping ship (it is mostly a gaming focused pc) any suggestions?

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    If you have nothing to lose, ie. if you don't play anything with anticheat or you don't use any productivity software with crazy DRM platform-locking you into Windows, do it, switch over.

    The bulk of all games will run in Proton or even vanilla WINE now and the minority that's platform-locked into Windows is anything that uses kernel-level anticheat, if you only play single-player games, those will broadly work fine in WINE/Proton, and as for productivity software, there's plenty of alternatives to things like Maya, Photoshop, Lightroom, or Premiere/AfterEffects to choose from that isn't platform-locked anywhere, eg. Blender as a Maya alternative, Krita or GIMP as a Photoshop alternative, RawTherapee or Darktable as a Lightroom alternative, and KdenLive or Davinci Resolve as a Premiere/AfterEffects alternative.

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    • E [email protected]

      Approaching the end of window 10 and have no plans on upgrading to 11.

      I am trying to find alternatives to applications I regularly use before jumping ship (it is mostly a gaming focused pc) any suggestions?

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      #197

      What do you use iTunes for? That stood out to me.

      Also Chrome works fine on Linux, though Firefox is a better browser even on Windows.

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        What do you use iTunes for? That stood out to me.

        Also Chrome works fine on Linux, though Firefox is a better browser even on Windows.

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        #198

        Fooyin's a really good alternative and if you can flash Rockbox onto an older iPod that supports that firmware, then it'll just function as a normal external drive.

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        • synapse1278@lemmy.worldS [email protected]
          Software Linux support
          AMD driver ✅ open-source drivers for CPU and GPU are included in the Linux Kernel and work very well. If you have bleeding edge news hardware, check online in which Kernel version they are supposed and choose Linux distro accordingly
          Web Browser ✅ Chrome/chromium, ✅ Firefox. All are commonly available in your distro software repository by default, or otherwise with Flatpak
          Web-based email ✅ not dependent on OS. Local Email client software are available, one exemple is Thunderbird.
          Office suite ✅ LibreOffice, or anything web-based such as Google Docs will work independently of the OS
          Itunes Many music players/library managers are available on Linux, I don't have any specific recommendations here, I am self-hosting Jellyfin for my music needs
          JBL not sure what you mean here ? Your headset/speakers ? Don't see why it wouldn't work
          Music score reader/editor ✅ MuseScore, I also use Guitar Pro (7, 😎 inside Bottle (wine) and it works with some tweaks needed for fixing font bug
          Antivirus ✅ ClamAV, arguable if you need an antivirus at all
          Python ✅ many IDEs are available, a scary amount of Linux distribution rely on Python under the hood 😅
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          #199

          .

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            Star Citizen works great on linux with Lutris.
            https://lutris.net/games/star-citizen/

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            #200

            As good as it runs on Windows, anyway... It is still Star Citizen 😜

            (No shade, really promising and most of it is pretty slick and impressive when it's working and I hope they get it stable sometime soon-ish)

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            • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

              On windows you install things from random websites as the primary method of installing stuff, this means anything can install anything and has installers that can install bonus stuff. This is why windows has so much malware.

              On linux, imagine your distro is an app store, ubuntu is an app store, mint is an app store, fedora is an app store. The apps themselves can't manage installation so they can't bundle nonsense with them. you just click install and you get only the thing you wanted and nothing else.

              Since your distro curates all the software, as long as you trust your distro, you'll know there's no malware on your computer, because you get all your software from the distro (or flathub but same idea).

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              #201

              You can install things from random websites for Linux too, though.

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              • E [email protected]

                Approaching the end of window 10 and have no plans on upgrading to 11.

                I am trying to find alternatives to applications I regularly use before jumping ship (it is mostly a gaming focused pc) any suggestions?

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                #202

                Star Citizen runs just fine under linux.

                https://github.com/starcitizen-lug/lug-helper

                I would recommend using Wine directly over using Lutris right now, but that's an option you can pick in this script. Join the discord if you have trouble, people are friendly there if you're polite.

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                • zacryon@feddit.orgZ [email protected]

                  You can install things from random websites for Linux too, though.

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                  #203

                  You can, but on windows it's the standard way to do things, on linux it's almost never done.

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                  • louslash@sh.itjust.worksL [email protected]

                    For an average user i would recommend Firefox

                    For someone tech-savy and privacy focused - LibreWolf

                    Why? Some websites will not work properly on LibreWolf because of how hardened it is (not extremely, but just enough to break some things on websites). I don't mean it's bad, it's just not for everyone atm since many people want things to just work™

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                    #204

                    If you want more customizability, then Floorp's also a great option .

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                    • umbrella@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

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                      This isn't exactly what I recommend. Only in the case the hardware is bleeding edge, as in, it was released less than 6 month ago, then check in which Kernel version it starts to be supported, as well as check the Kernel version shipping with the distribution you are interested in installing. Distro Kernel version >= Kernel version where the driver starts to be included, no problems. Otherwise, check a distro that has more frequent upgrades.

                      Things to check: GPU, CPU, WiFi chip, Ethernet chip. In windows you can find the information in the device manager. On Linux (e.g: test with a live USB) the command lspci with display the information.

                      A common case would be: I am interested in Debian because I heard it's the most stable, will my AMD 5070XT work with that ? Probably not very well, better Check Ubuntu non-LTS or Fedora.

                      I am not recommending op to modify the Kernel from the Linux distro, just consider this point in choosing the distro.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        What do you use iTunes for? That stood out to me.

                        Also Chrome works fine on Linux, though Firefox is a better browser even on Windows.

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                        I have iTunes, because I have an iPhone. I don’t know of any other good way to get mp3s on my phone. (And to get games for emulators)

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                        • N [email protected]

                          Proton owner came out as big creep, so don't really recommend.

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                          oh that’s sad. I mostly switched out of proton bc I didn’t want to put all my eggs in one basket. Also, not having IMAP sucksss because both the official proton and tuta apps are SLOW

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                          • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

                            True for wayland, not true at all for x11

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                            It's true for any variation of Linux. Hell, the vulnerability (Mimikatz) that was crucial in the most expensive cyber security attack in history is still there in Windows.

                            And for X11 to be exploited you would need to get and run malicious code in the first place. The Linux security model kicks in before you get to that point.

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                            • E [email protected]

                              Can you explain how that works?

                              Sorry for my ineptitude

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                              #209

                              tl;dr

                              You don't need antivirus on Linux in 99% of scenarios

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                              • richardisaguy@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                AMD DRIVERS - Linux's built in drivers
                                Chrome - Chrome
                                gmail - gmail
                                Office 360 - Office 360 (web)
                                Norton - You don't need such piece of adware in Linux
                                Py-charm - py-charm
                                Star citizen - Star citizen though steam
                                VPN - Proton VPN (my suggestion)
                                Windows 10 - Fedora KDE

                                My suggestions if you want a smoother transition, repeated ones have Linux versions

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                                You need to double up your newlines 🙂

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                                • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

                                  I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

                                  I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

                                  The mere fact that it generates a new system for you on update and lets you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

                                  How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

                                  Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

                                  Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, color management, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lmde is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

                                  I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

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                                  Have to agree. Mint runs on long term support versions of Ubuntu releases. A lot of times this can cause issues with gaming because the kernel is so out of date, and thus the graphics driver is as well. Plus, they have snaps which are terrible compared to flatpaks.

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                                  • isveryloud@lemmy.caI [email protected]

                                    You need to double up your newlines 🙂

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                                    Thank you, kind stranger, I haven't noticed my formatting was messed up

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                                    • richardisaguy@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                      AMD DRIVERS - Linux's built in drivers
                                      Chrome - Chrome
                                      gmail - gmail
                                      Office 360 - Office 360 (web)
                                      Norton - You don't need such piece of adware in Linux
                                      Py-charm - py-charm
                                      Star citizen - Star citizen though steam
                                      VPN - Proton VPN (my suggestion)
                                      Windows 10 - Fedora KDE

                                      My suggestions if you want a smoother transition, repeated ones have Linux versions

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                                      At least get clamAV setup. No OS is virus immune. And if wine is installed without proper sandboxing ...

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                                      • repletelocum@lemmy.blahaj.zoneR [email protected]

                                        I have iTunes, because I have an iPhone. I don’t know of any other good way to get mp3s on my phone. (And to get games for emulators)

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                                        Thanks! I didnt realize iTunes was still supported.

                                        https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/12/transfer-music-ubuntu-iphone/amp/

                                        Seems like you can also use the iOS VLC app to get mp3s on there

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                                        • T [email protected]

                                          At least get clamAV setup. No OS is virus immune. And if wine is installed without proper sandboxing ...

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                                          #215

                                          SELinux, wine (and other apps) installed via user flatpak with proper permissions configued, coupled with ufw or firewalld, secure boot enabled and an immutable system should be fine, no?

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