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Teslas turn toxic as sales crash in Europe and the UK | EV sales in the region are growing, but not for Tesla

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  • V [email protected]

    I'm not going to sell a perfectly useable Model Y after a year just because the CEO is a cunt. But I'm going to tell everyone that he's a cunt with 30 stickers plastered all over the useless rear window

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    Fair point. I won’t judge Tesla drivers. I’ll judge Tesla drivers that don’t have a load of stickers on their car.

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      Dacia Spring. You're welcome.

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      Well, I mean a car where I can fit with my wife, two kids, bag of groceries and still drive uphill...

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        Anyone still driving a Tesla needs a bit of verbal abuse.

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        Tesla ownership is its own punishment.

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          I don’t know about abuse but I do judge people with Teslas purchased in the last 5 years. Before that the completion was lacking and it was less evident to most people that the CEO is a cunt, but now even if you ignore Elon, it’s just a crazy purchase when all the other manufacturers have caught up in electric and arguably produce better vehicles with less issues.

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          I'd be interested to see some market analysis that looks into the reasons for the sales declines. In particular, how much is driven by poor product quality versus how much is due to Musk being a knobhead.

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          • justas@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

            WWII might be a distant memory for Americans, but most of Europeans have been to historical sites of Jewish genocide.

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            I'm still friends with my ex, who's American (as I am), but it's far from a distant memory for her. 90% of her extended family on her mother's side died in Auschwitz. Nearly as many on her father's side were murdered too,

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            • sturgist@lemmy.caS [email protected]

              I'm a sole trader, Stone Mason, I make enough to buy a used vehicle, but not new. Know what I would love? A light duty truck, no crew cab road princess bullshit, two seats in front, maybe a single half door passenger side for putting stuff behind the seats, and a properly sized bed. There's no such thing on the used market. There's absolutely uses for small trucks for trades folk. Back in Canada I had an older Ford Ranger, from when they were a rebadged Mitsubishi B3200. I would step over my dying gran for something like that here in the UK. The new Rangers are a fucking joke, FWD, crew cab standard, and they're the size of the old F-150s, completely unusable in the UK. I'm thinking about maybe importing a Japanese Kei Truck. There's some larger ones that are smaller than an old Ranger, but big enough for what I need....and they look cool AF.

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              A family member's a brickie. He ran an LDV Pilot for few years, until it died, and it was useful (piece of shit, but pretty reliable, and cheap to fix when it did break) while it lasted. But newer trucks and small vans aren't nearly as suitable.

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                Great Britain and the British Isles are geographical terms, not political ones. Sometimes publications will say Great Britain to mean England, Scotland, and Wales, but not Northern Ireland but they also don't include things like the Isle of Man in that even though technically Great Britain does include the Isle of Man.

                Unless the conversation is explicitly about geography, and land masses you should not use anything other than the United Kingdom.

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                The British Isles include the Isle of Man (and also Ireland, the Isle of Wight, the Hebrides, the Shetlands, the Isles of Scilly and (debatably) the Channel Islands. Great Britain is the name of the big island that England, Wales and mainland Scotland sits on.

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                  Early car sales data for January is starting to arrive from countries across the pond, and they paint an alarming picture for Tesla. Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK—all affluent countries that are key markets for Tesla's electric vehicles. Coming on the heels of a large financial miss, it's just one more problem for the automaker.

                  Tesla sales dropped around 13 percent across Europe in 2024, but so far this year, the scale of the problem is far greater. In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percent, while total car sales in the country fell by just 6 percent, with EV sales dropping just half a percent.

                  Germany was already looking like lost ground for Tesla—its 41 percent drop in 2024 accounted for most of Tesla's lost sales across Europe. That must make the 59 percent drop in German Tesla sales recorded during January even more painful on the profit and loss statements.

                  Across the Channel, the British auto industry just released its sales data for January. Here, Tesla sales fell less precipitously—just 12 percent. However, battery EV sales were 35 percent higher in the UK in January 2025 than in January 2024. The cake is growing, but Tesla is getting to eat less and less of it.

                  In fact, no Tesla cracked the UK's top 10 best-seller list last month, something that has regularly happened in the past, although that may be due to having just two models for >sale in most markets.

                  Large declines have also been recorded in Sweden (44 percent), Norway (38 percent), and the Netherlands (42 percent).

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                  Well, I did Nazi that coming

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                  • E [email protected]

                    Yes but not the continent despite what certain people would like

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                    Except for Jutland, the same could be said of the 400+ islands that make up Denmark. Yet Denmark is universally regarded as part of Europe, despite the main landmass/island pedantry.

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                      Maybe they just like the car. Not everything has to be political. Especially if they get it 2nd hand, the depreciation is huge. So someone could get a nice Tesla for great money. Doesn't mean they like Elon or support him.

                      Buying 2nd hand is greener and doesn't support him.

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                      When the owner is that political, it becomes political though. “If 9 people sit at a table with one Nazi…” etc etc.

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                        Early car sales data for January is starting to arrive from countries across the pond, and they paint an alarming picture for Tesla. Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK—all affluent countries that are key markets for Tesla's electric vehicles. Coming on the heels of a large financial miss, it's just one more problem for the automaker.

                        Tesla sales dropped around 13 percent across Europe in 2024, but so far this year, the scale of the problem is far greater. In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percent, while total car sales in the country fell by just 6 percent, with EV sales dropping just half a percent.

                        Germany was already looking like lost ground for Tesla—its 41 percent drop in 2024 accounted for most of Tesla's lost sales across Europe. That must make the 59 percent drop in German Tesla sales recorded during January even more painful on the profit and loss statements.

                        Across the Channel, the British auto industry just released its sales data for January. Here, Tesla sales fell less precipitously—just 12 percent. However, battery EV sales were 35 percent higher in the UK in January 2025 than in January 2024. The cake is growing, but Tesla is getting to eat less and less of it.

                        In fact, no Tesla cracked the UK's top 10 best-seller list last month, something that has regularly happened in the past, although that may be due to having just two models for >sale in most markets.

                        Large declines have also been recorded in Sweden (44 percent), Norway (38 percent), and the Netherlands (42 percent).

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                        Maybe Musk should sue them...

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                          Anyone driving anything close to a pickup here is a knob. Ford Rangers or Raptors are for men whos wives dress them.

                          Hilux was acceptable but they are in the same boat now, you all look ridiculous.

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                          Mate my wife dresses me but categorising me with them POS trucks is just too far.

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                            Maps like this are the only way my feeble American brain can process complicated European things.

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                            Ukraine is a candidate country, by the way.

                            https://enlargement.ec.europa.eu/european-neighbourhood-policy/countries-region/ukraine_en

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                            • S [email protected]

                              Well for obvious reasons. But also bcs their product is crap quality. My neighbour keeps on pouring grand after grand for stupid repairs into his model S

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                              That can't be, teslas never break and don't need maintenance. Many people said it, smart people

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                                A family member's a brickie. He ran an LDV Pilot for few years, until it died, and it was useful (piece of shit, but pretty reliable, and cheap to fix when it did break) while it lasted. But newer trucks and small vans aren't nearly as suitable.

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                                The Pilot was ugly as fuck, but from what I've heard they were basically indestructible to a certain point....then there was almost no reviving them. Been considering getting a decommissioned ambulance and changing my trading name to Dr. Stone....
                                Ambulance is basically set up for a mobile shop, 240 and 110, loads of drawers and cupboards, tie-down points and either a fold down ramp or a hydraulic tailgate. Ambulance services are always refreshing their fleet, they get worked hard, but there's a maintenance standard so even with 180k miles on the Odo they're typically not running poorly. Idk...maybe I'm talking myself into it, maybe it's actually a good idea.

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                                  Anyone driving anything close to a pickup here is a knob. Ford Rangers or Raptors are for men whos wives dress them.

                                  Hilux was acceptable but they are in the same boat now, you all look ridiculous.

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                                  Pickups have their uses in Europe as well. Where I live, it seems like most pest controllers (rat catchers, an easy to clean open trunk is probably very nice) and land surveyors prefer them over other vehicles. They all use smaller sensible size pickups from Japanese brands though.

                                  I think I've spotted only 2 different modern USA oversized pickups in traffic. Both full black, never a speck of dirt on them, always tailgating someone. They are vastly outnumbered by the sensible pickups, but you just can't miss spotting them in traffic.

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                                  • F [email protected]

                                    Early car sales data for January is starting to arrive from countries across the pond, and they paint an alarming picture for Tesla. Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK—all affluent countries that are key markets for Tesla's electric vehicles. Coming on the heels of a large financial miss, it's just one more problem for the automaker.

                                    Tesla sales dropped around 13 percent across Europe in 2024, but so far this year, the scale of the problem is far greater. In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percent, while total car sales in the country fell by just 6 percent, with EV sales dropping just half a percent.

                                    Germany was already looking like lost ground for Tesla—its 41 percent drop in 2024 accounted for most of Tesla's lost sales across Europe. That must make the 59 percent drop in German Tesla sales recorded during January even more painful on the profit and loss statements.

                                    Across the Channel, the British auto industry just released its sales data for January. Here, Tesla sales fell less precipitously—just 12 percent. However, battery EV sales were 35 percent higher in the UK in January 2025 than in January 2024. The cake is growing, but Tesla is getting to eat less and less of it.

                                    In fact, no Tesla cracked the UK's top 10 best-seller list last month, something that has regularly happened in the past, although that may be due to having just two models for >sale in most markets.

                                    Large declines have also been recorded in Sweden (44 percent), Norway (38 percent), and the Netherlands (42 percent).

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                                    Europeans don't want to drive a Swasticar? Why? Did something happen to make them dislike Nazis for some reason?

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                                    • V [email protected]

                                      This sparks joy.

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                                      Or sparks fire, considering it's Tesla

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                                      • kurcatovium@lemm.eeK [email protected]

                                        Gimme cheap, simple and reliable EV with guaranteed 200km range and I'm sold. I don't need bazillion of cameras inside and out, I don't need glass roof, I don't need always online maps for a subscription fee and I don't need 20" infotainment, neither I need 3 zone AC with ventilated seats and ballsack massage device, etc. I just want a Dacia of EV market.

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                                        Just wondering, what qualifies as cheap for you?

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                                          Mate my wife dresses me but categorising me with them POS trucks is just too far.

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                                          Yeah man I didnt mean to do that, mine dresses me too...or rather she would do a better job of it anyway

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