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Greenland visit cancelled after locals refuse to welcome Usha Vance

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  • K [email protected]

    You don't think diplomatic immunity would apply? I'm sure the secret service would just sit there while a hundred people swarm. Enjoy your fantasy, but that would never happen irl.

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    Diplomatic immunity is in effect only for people invited to the country as diplomats. The ambassador of USA to Finland does not have immunity when he travels to Sweden.

    What I wonder: what are the laws regarding a person coming to Greenland in order to work there as a worker of a foreign company/organization? Did Vance enter Greenland as a tourist? Since he was working from Greenland's soil without a work visa, was he an illegal immigrant?

    Three weeks with lights constantly on, amirite?

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    • rammer@sopuli.xyzR [email protected]

      Maga maga!

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      It uses dumb!

      It's not very effective.

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        Even more interesting is that her mother (VP Vance's mother-in-law) was instrumental in advancing DEI at the university she works at (UCSD).

        I would pay a lot of money to see a journalist ask JD Vance if he approves of his mother-in-law's work in promoting DEI. Just knowing how awkward that next family gathering would be would make it worth it.

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        I’d actually pay for a newspaper printing Vance’s mother in laws opinion of her son in law.

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        • I [email protected]

          Sorry, I think this was a mistake.

          I think it would have been better for one household to welcome them warmly, say they were proud to have them in their home.

          And when they showed up, sat down, had tea, had 100 greenlanders in with literal torches and pitchforks come in screaming obscenities of every kind and demanding they leave while streaming the whole thing.

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          In trumps first week of his first term he invited a dictator here and his security beat the fuck out of American protesters on American soil.

          Nothing happened. They got on a plane and left.

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          • K [email protected]

            You don't think diplomatic immunity would apply? I'm sure the secret service would just sit there while a hundred people swarm. Enjoy your fantasy, but that would never happen irl.

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            Diplomatic immunity applies to criminal charges.

            This is different, this is not diplomatic in any way, the only issue is that the government is bound to protect foreign dignitaries and foreign citizens.

            HOWEVER: a state of hostility can be interpreted, and since there is no formal diplomatic delegation this can be interpreted as a hostile incursion.

            In any case, since they have been asked not to come Greenland has 0 obligation to protect them in any way, and they have 0 diplomatic protection as persona non grata.

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            • B [email protected]

              Diplomatically, this is as good as it gets, unfortunately.

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              And Vance's wife, compared to Trump, Melania, and JD, is exceedingly capable at putting a reasonable face on this shit-stain of a regime, which makes it all the more satisfying that she's being rebuffed the same as any of the others.

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              • R [email protected]

                It uses dumb!

                It's not very effective.

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                It's actually been shockingly effective.

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                • A [email protected]

                  what the fuck did they expect? a welcoming party to rival none other? With drumpf constantly going on about how he's gonna take greenland? JFC. Fucking morons.

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                  It wouldn't surprise me if they did think that. They're still stuck on American Exceptionalism and little self awareness. They pretend trump is JFK and we're back in the Camelot era. Let that sink in.

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                    what the fuck did they expect? a welcoming party to rival none other? With drumpf constantly going on about how he's gonna take greenland? JFC. Fucking morons.

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                    Putin's men thought Ukrainians would welcome them with open arms too...

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                      Putin's men thought Ukrainians would welcome them with open arms too...

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                      Putin also thought he could steamroll over Ukraine. 3 years and nearly a million russian troops later, Ukraine is still holding their own.

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                        Putin also thought he could steamroll over Ukraine. 3 years and nearly a million russian troops later, Ukraine is still holding their own.

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                        Obviously. I was just drawing a parallel between Putin's and Trump's propaganda.

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                        • fishos@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                          Yeah, I goofed. You're right.

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                          What are answers that let you know you aren’t on Reddit for $200 Ken.

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                            Good job, Greenland! Proud of you. Every country should do this.

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                            • D [email protected]

                              Obviously. I was just drawing a parallel between Putin's and Trump's propaganda.

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                              I know. I was agreeing with you.

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                                It wouldn't surprise me if they did think that. They're still stuck on American Exceptionalism and little self awareness. They pretend trump is JFK and we're back in the Camelot era. Let that sink in.

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                                Nothing exceptional about us anymore...if there ever was

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                                  Moment "American representatives were seen walking around the city" they were outside the base? That would have been the moment to do the same as America and have them arrested directly... Shouldn't be a problem legally, after all, it's about national security and there have already been more than enough hostile statements and indirect announcements of war.

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                                    Even more interesting is that her mother (VP Vance's mother-in-law) was instrumental in advancing DEI at the university she works at (UCSD).

                                    I would pay a lot of money to see a journalist ask JD Vance if he approves of his mother-in-law's work in promoting DEI. Just knowing how awkward that next family gathering would be would make it worth it.

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                                    Their family dinners must be fun... /s

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                                    • fishos@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                      In fairness, the Second Lady has traditionally taken on various projects, although usually of a kids/education/health/humanitarian angle. Nancy Reagan was particularly well known for her various causes. Michelle Obama was advocating child literacy and healthy lifestyle I believe.

                                      Not defending her at all, but I think it's important to keep our facts and histories straight.

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                                      Last one wasn't even a lady - I don't remember Doug being in the news until the 2024 campaign, although Wikipedia lists plenty of things he did in the role.

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        THIS! IS! GREENLAND!!!

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                                        We need the remix version of that

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                                          I’d meet her, so as I could ask her how she can stand by these awful policies …but I’m not a woman. Or from Greenland.

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                                          Nah don’t even bother. If someone asked that, it would just be edited out of the recording. And it would still give VP a platform to talk.

                                          Shunning is the way to go. It’s far more embarrassing.

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