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Biden wouldn't be proposing beach front real estate for one.

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  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Biden wouldn't be proposing beach front real estate for one. Biden wasn't the one saying the only thing Israel is doing wrong is not going fast enough.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250408-trump-calls-gaza-incredible-real-estate-and-oceanfront-property/

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d

    What was Biden saying? Oh, right:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq6g4694vygo

    "During Sunday's call, which was the first to be publicly announced since October, Biden "stressed the immediate need for a ceasefire in Gaza and return of the hostages with a surge in humanitarian aid enabled by a stoppage in the fighting under the deal".

    So, the polar opposite of "finish it quick, get rid of the Palestinians, steal the real estate."

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    • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

      Biden wouldn't be proposing beach front real estate for one. Biden wasn't the one saying the only thing Israel is doing wrong is not going fast enough.

      https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250408-trump-calls-gaza-incredible-real-estate-and-oceanfront-property/

      https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d

      What was Biden saying? Oh, right:

      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq6g4694vygo

      "During Sunday's call, which was the first to be publicly announced since October, Biden "stressed the immediate need for a ceasefire in Gaza and return of the hostages with a surge in humanitarian aid enabled by a stoppage in the fighting under the deal".

      So, the polar opposite of "finish it quick, get rid of the Palestinians, steal the real estate."

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      https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250429-biden-never-pressured-israel-for-ceasefire-as-israeli-officials-boast-of-exploiting-us-support/

      Biden never did anything to pressure Israel. The actions of both of them are pretty much the same.

      Why don't you ask yourself why the Democrats chose to fight for Israel rather than their own country? Why did they refuse to take a meaningful stand? It's not like they didn't know/had data about how many leftist voters felt about the issue.

      "My job is to keep the left pro-israel" ~ chuck Schumer

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        https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250429-biden-never-pressured-israel-for-ceasefire-as-israeli-officials-boast-of-exploiting-us-support/

        Biden never did anything to pressure Israel. The actions of both of them are pretty much the same.

        Why don't you ask yourself why the Democrats chose to fight for Israel rather than their own country? Why did they refuse to take a meaningful stand? It's not like they didn't know/had data about how many leftist voters felt about the issue.

        "My job is to keep the left pro-israel" ~ chuck Schumer

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        "Not actively pressuring" is far different from "actively encouraging".

        If you listen to the edgy teenagers you'd think Biden was out there pulling the trigger himself and that absolutely was not the case.

        But then they're of the co-hort that anything bad that happens is automatically the fault of the US.

        Why do the Democrats fight for Israel? Same reason the Republicans do... MONEY. It's all about money, always has been.

        https://www.commondreams.org/news/aipac-100-million

        "'Very Bad Sign for Democracy': AIPAC Has Spent Over $100 Million on 2024 Elections"

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          "Not actively pressuring" is far different from "actively encouraging".

          If you listen to the edgy teenagers you'd think Biden was out there pulling the trigger himself and that absolutely was not the case.

          But then they're of the co-hort that anything bad that happens is automatically the fault of the US.

          Why do the Democrats fight for Israel? Same reason the Republicans do... MONEY. It's all about money, always has been.

          https://www.commondreams.org/news/aipac-100-million

          "'Very Bad Sign for Democracy': AIPAC Has Spent Over $100 Million on 2024 Elections"

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          If you listen to the edgy teenagers you'd think Biden was out there pulling the trigger himself and that absolutely was not the case.

          Yeah he was just cool handing out the gun and watching from the side lines when it was used.

          You can't seriously still be arguing Biden was doing anything to stop the genocide? Every president before him stopped Israel with a call and Biden just let it happen

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            If you listen to the edgy teenagers you'd think Biden was out there pulling the trigger himself and that absolutely was not the case.

            Yeah he was just cool handing out the gun and watching from the side lines when it was used.

            You can't seriously still be arguing Biden was doing anything to stop the genocide? Every president before him stopped Israel with a call and Biden just let it happen

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            I agree Biden could have done more, but that doesn't make him responsible. At worst he was a doddering old man whose views on Israel were formed before any of us were born and never updated for the shit they've been pulling since the 90s.

            You have to understand, for folks of Biden's generation, Israel is the victim. They've never heard of things like "Punitive Demolition":

            https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-demolition-militants-explosion-jerusalem-court-b05977502bc2c40e61eb68ab733653b4

            Or are aware that while doing that, Israel actually killed an American:

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

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              I agree Biden could have done more, but that doesn't make him responsible. At worst he was a doddering old man whose views on Israel were formed before any of us were born and never updated for the shit they've been pulling since the 90s.

              You have to understand, for folks of Biden's generation, Israel is the victim. They've never heard of things like "Punitive Demolition":

              https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-demolition-militants-explosion-jerusalem-court-b05977502bc2c40e61eb68ab733653b4

              Or are aware that while doing that, Israel actually killed an American:

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

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              His actions and support absolutely makes him responsible. He saw what was happening and gave Israel unwavering support.

              https://time.com/6340511/biden-israel-history/

              Hell he was even doing it as Obamas VP

              https://jewishcurrents.org/joe-bidens-alarming-record-on-israel

              Republicans were better at stopping conflicts than Biden...

              https://www.axios.com/2024/05/13/us-presidents-red-lines-israel

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                His actions and support absolutely makes him responsible. He saw what was happening and gave Israel unwavering support.

                https://time.com/6340511/biden-israel-history/

                Hell he was even doing it as Obamas VP

                https://jewishcurrents.org/joe-bidens-alarming-record-on-israel

                Republicans were better at stopping conflicts than Biden...

                https://www.axios.com/2024/05/13/us-presidents-red-lines-israel

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                In line with my above comment:

                "At worst he was a doddering old man whose views on Israel were formed before any of us were born and never updated for the shit they've been pulling since the 90s."

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                  In line with my above comment:

                  "At worst he was a doddering old man whose views on Israel were formed before any of us were born and never updated for the shit they've been pulling since the 90s."

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                  How does saying oh it's okay that he let all those people die, he was just old and still wanted to be the one in charge absolve him of anything?

                  Why do you try so hard to protect his image?

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                    How does saying oh it's okay that he let all those people die, he was just old and still wanted to be the one in charge absolve him of anything?

                    Why do you try so hard to protect his image?

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                    He didn't "let" anything. Bibi flat out wasn't listening to anyone, Biden was not special in that regard.

                    The only way you're going to stop the genocide in Gaza is to invade Israel and make them stop. Nobody has the balls to do it.

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                    • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                      He didn't "let" anything. Bibi flat out wasn't listening to anyone, Biden was not special in that regard.

                      The only way you're going to stop the genocide in Gaza is to invade Israel and make them stop. Nobody has the balls to do it.

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                      You can stop giving them weapons, you can actually try something. If you think us cannot tell Israel what to do then you are blind

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