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What is something that should have died out a long time ago?

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  • dsilverz@calckey.worldD [email protected]

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    Firstly, it's obvious "believing" means "zero evidence". If a belief had any solid evidences, it wouldn't be a belief, it would be a peer-reviewed scientific paper instead.

    That said, you're conflating "belief" with "religious hierarchy" when, in reality, belief isn't necessarily dependent on hierarchy. I believe in Lilith and Lucifer, and I have no one "above me" except for Her and Him. In fact, the belief I follow on my own isn't even compatible with any kind of hierarchy, because these entities represent independence and rebelliousness, so it'd be quite paradoxical for me to have a leader/master/priestess/whatever.

    Finally, I challenge you to point out any kind of "humanity's ill" inflicted by Luciferianism and other left-hand path beliefs, even those who actually have hierarchies (e.g. Quimbanda).

    So, I sincerely remind you, don't generalize and attack every single religion and belief system on Earth because of a half dozen big ones who actually are to blame for many historical wars ("Holy wars") and their interference on scientific progress. Don't demonize the demons and demonesses, we're friends of scientific inquiry. Beware not to do friendly fire.

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    Don't demonize the demons and demonesses

    You are all following demons. Self-proclaimed Satanists, Atheists, "progressivists", billionaires, nazis, racists, bigots, child molesters, and rapists. Men who abuse women and women who abuse men. And those demons hate you more than anyone else can. They'll lead you to the everlasting hellfire. They won't be your friend.

    we're friends of scientific inquiry.

    Christians basically invented the scientific method. It has never rejected science apart from some fringe beliefs.

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      Where's the evidence that your partner loves you?

      Also, there is evidence for the resurrection of Jesus, people just reject it because it doesn't fit their desires and makes them cry like a waa waa baby

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      rofl no there isn't, you numpty.

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      • dsilverz@calckey.worldD [email protected]

        @[email protected] Where in centuries of human history were there any wrongdoings stemming from Luciferianism and other leaderless occult belief systems? Where in centuries of human history did Luciferianism and other occult belief systems interfered or tried to hinger with scientific progress?

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        We don't know because the Christians purged the history books of them.

        I'm not saying you're just as bad as Christians et. al., just similarly brainless for believing in things without evidence, which IS dangerous on its own.

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          Go on then try to explain how pagan religions that boil down to "don't fuck with nature, it'll kill you" are damaging?

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          rofl way to strawman their beliefs... Sure, it makes sense when you leave out everything made up.

          Nowhere did I say they're AS BAD as Christians et. al., but belief without evidence is still fucking stupid and harmful to yourself and anyone you teach such drivel to.

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            Religion.

            It served a purpose when societies were first moving from hunting and gathering to agriculture. A community needed to coalesce around something tangible for resource sharing, protection, decision making, etc...

            It's why, from a societal evolution perspective, we went from totemic religions based on fertility and family groups, to mass religions with defined hierachies and roles, because the evolution or religions reflect that evolutions of society at the time.

            We don't need that anymore. It does more harm than good in the modern world.

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              rofl way to strawman their beliefs... Sure, it makes sense when you leave out everything made up.

              Nowhere did I say they're AS BAD as Christians et. al., but belief without evidence is still fucking stupid and harmful to yourself and anyone you teach such drivel to.

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              my point that it doesn’t matter which religion

              idk man saying it doesn't matter what religion you're talking about sounds like you think they're all equally bad to me.

              Also idk who's beliefs you think I'm making a strawman out of but I was refering to my own beliefs that help me to actually go into nature as I can at least 4 times a year to help with my depression, maybe I'm more open to it because up until a few years ago I was studying to become a conservationist but it's certainly better than back when I also thought that anyone who believes in something is a dumbass

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                Those two should not be counted in the same category.

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                Maybe not, but the boundaries can be fuzzy, and statistics tend to get built on technical language that may not treat the fuzziness the way you or I would agree with. So I get the urge to use vague language like 'affects' or the difficulty in finding language that is general enough without sounding mealy mouthed.

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                  English orthography. It's like this close to being random.

                  Other languages have reformed theirs (or theres or they'res) to make sense at some point since the dawn of modern literacy.

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                  • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

                    The oldest two mechanisms of authenticating on credit cards.

                    From oldest to newest, they are:

                    1. Printed data on card.

                    2. Magstrip (which basically has the same data in machine-readable form).

                    3. Smartcard chip with contacts.

                    4. Wireless.

                    The first two mechanisms hand over all the data required to impersonate the cardholder whenever used, which isn't very secure. Yes, there's value to keeping a mechanism around for a while to permit transition time, but we should have had tap-to-pay hardware on PCs and phones and the like a long time ago.

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                    Does smartcard and wireless actually have an encryption layer of some kind?

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                      Tips. How ridiculous is it that restaurant owners guilt us into paying their employees salaries because they are too cheap to pay them a living wage? How unjust is it that we chose to tip the people who bring our food from the kitchen to our table and leave the hundreds of other service workers without tips?

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                      A better understanding will flow from knowing that federal minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.13 per hour.

                      So there is specific legislation in place to abuse restaurant workers, restaurant owners take full advantage of this.

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                        English orthography. It's like this close to being random.

                        Other languages have reformed theirs (or theres or they'res) to make sense at some point since the dawn of modern literacy.

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                        We did address it. And then everyone immediately changed how they pronounced every vowel.

                        We should address it again, and fix the way a ton of words have been Anglicized at the same time, but we're far from alone. French is loaded with needlessly silent letters as well, just as the first example that springs to mind.

                        (actually, can we just switch directly to the International Phonetic Alphabet?) (This is a bad idea for reasons that are probably obvious, it's a lateral move at best)

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                          If you squint real hard, Genesis is a tale of stellar and planetary formation. Then comes evolution. Give the first bits a read! Yeah, evolution is mixed up a little, still surprisingly on point for a bunch of Bronze Age sheep herders.

                          Then there's a second tale, in the same short book. What a clusterfuck. But I can still see some real history in it. If I squint real hard.

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                          Squint so hard your eyes are closed, maybe. Any overlap between biblical verse (translated through at least two languages) and modern scientific understanding is coincidental.

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                            In reality, it's not purely about race. Most racism isn't between groups that are culturally identical, it is between groups with significant cultural differences. Race is just the most obvious attribute used to identify the other group.

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                            Lol

                            Speak of the devil and the ones equating skin color with culture will appear

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                              Squint so hard your eyes are closed, maybe. Any overlap between biblical verse (translated through at least two languages) and modern scientific understanding is coincidental.

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                              Like a prophecy referencing cities burning being reimagined as a nuclear exchange instead of, you know, a fire.

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                                We did address it. And then everyone immediately changed how they pronounced every vowel.

                                We should address it again, and fix the way a ton of words have been Anglicized at the same time, but we're far from alone. French is loaded with needlessly silent letters as well, just as the first example that springs to mind.

                                (actually, can we just switch directly to the International Phonetic Alphabet?) (This is a bad idea for reasons that are probably obvious, it's a lateral move at best)

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                                We did address it. And then everyone immediately changed how they pronounced every vowel.

                                What do you mean? The Great Vowel Shift happened well before any standardisation of spelling I'm aware of. And there's plenty of problems beyond just the vowels.

                                French is probably number two on the shit list, but there's at least a consistent pattern there.

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                                  Lol

                                  Speak of the devil and the ones equating skin color with culture will appear

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                                  Bring any nuance to a charged topic and the ones who think in black and white terms will come to misinterpret what you said in the least charitable way.

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                                    Does smartcard and wireless actually have an encryption layer of some kind?

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                                    I'd assume so, but more importantly, for both, there's a cryptographic signature being performed by the card. The credentials never leave the card --- there's a private key on the card, and what goes out is a signature on the transaction, which is useless for doing other transactions.

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                                      Religion isn't necessarily the problem, people (as usual) are.

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                                      That's essentially the same as saying guns aren't the problem.

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                                        my point that it doesn’t matter which religion

                                        idk man saying it doesn't matter what religion you're talking about sounds like you think they're all equally bad to me.

                                        Also idk who's beliefs you think I'm making a strawman out of but I was refering to my own beliefs that help me to actually go into nature as I can at least 4 times a year to help with my depression, maybe I'm more open to it because up until a few years ago I was studying to become a conservationist but it's certainly better than back when I also thought that anyone who believes in something is a dumbass

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                                        Your personal religion is not an established religion that has done things theoughout history... So again... good job strawmanning your own argument.

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                                          I'd assume so, but more importantly, for both, there's a cryptographic signature being performed by the card. The credentials never leave the card --- there's a private key on the card, and what goes out is a signature on the transaction, which is useless for doing other transactions.

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                                          That's not true for all cards, at the very least. Skimming wirelessly by RFID is or was a thing. The whole backbone of the credit card system is designed to expect the number.

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