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What is something that should have died out a long time ago?

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    rofl you refute my statement, backed by centuries of human history... with, "but my religion doesn't have a lord!"

    Good job proving my point that it doesn't matter which religion, but belief in bullshit os damaging... because your nonsense is ... nonsense.

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    @[email protected] Where in centuries of human history were there any wrongdoings stemming from Luciferianism and other leaderless occult belief systems? Where in centuries of human history did Luciferianism and other occult belief systems interfered or tried to hinger with scientific progress?

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      Every single fucking isp (at least in the states): nah

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        Me. I feel like I shouldn't be around anymore since quite some time

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        • M [email protected]

          rofl you refute my statement, backed by centuries of human history... with, "but my religion doesn't have a lord!"

          Good job proving my point that it doesn't matter which religion, but belief in bullshit os damaging... because your nonsense is ... nonsense.

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          Go on then try to explain how pagan religions that boil down to "don't fuck with nature, it'll kill you" are damaging?

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            Charli...

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              All religion is baseless bullshit, so yes, it is problematic in itself.
              It is divisive by nature/design.
              And it is made worse by people abusing it for power over others or discrimination.

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              I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say it’s all baseless. It could just as easily be the passing down of allegorical tales — stories seeded by some guiding or controlling force countless generations ago in our collective development. There are even arguments for things like a collective consciousness or sub-atomic networks, suggesting that our linear experience of time might just be a way of processing information.

              Honestly, who really knows? But speaking as someone who has oscillated between Christianity, Buddhism, and atheism in my youth, I’ve come to see atheism as just as much of a limiting dogma as any other belief system.

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                I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say it’s all baseless. It could just as easily be the passing down of allegorical tales — stories seeded by some guiding or controlling force countless generations ago in our collective development. There are even arguments for things like a collective consciousness or sub-atomic networks, suggesting that our linear experience of time might just be a way of processing information.

                Honestly, who really knows? But speaking as someone who has oscillated between Christianity, Buddhism, and atheism in my youth, I’ve come to see atheism as just as much of a limiting dogma as any other belief system.

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                After posting my comment, I figured the baseless part might get some critique, but I decided to leave it. I meant it as 'not based in realty or not based on facts', if that helps clarifying.
                Also, if you heap in atheism with Christianity and Buddhism, you don't understand what atheism is.
                Christianity and Buddhism are actual systems of belief, while atheism is simply a lack of belief in any god or deity.
                Anyone who does not believe in some god/deity/greater power, is an atheist. Whether they like it or not, that's what it is. A simple definition about a persons lack of belief. It does not come with any other rules or dogma. No rituals or leadership at all, so it can't be a system.

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                  Easy to say, but I'd argue it's baked in.

                  “Fifty thousand years ago there were these three guys spread out across the plain and they each heard something rustling in the grass. The first one thought it was a tiger, and he ran like hell, and it was a tiger but the guy got away. The second one thought the rustling was a tiger and he ran like hell, but it was only the wind and his friends all laughed at him for being such a chickenshit. But the third guy thought it was only the wind, so he shrugged it off and the tiger had him for dinner. And the same thing happened a million times across ten thousand generations - and after a while everyone was seeing tigers in the grass even when there were`t any tigers, because even chickenshits have more kids than corpses do. And from those humble beginnings we learn to see faces in the clouds and portents in the stars, to see agency in randomness, because natural selection favours the paranoid. Even here in the 21st century we can make people more honest just by scribbling a pair of eyes on the wall with a Sharpie. Even now we are wired to believe that unseen things are watching us.”

                  ― Peter Watts, Echopraxia

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                  Well said.

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                    On that note, Ben Shapiro as well.

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                    Andrew Tate, though that may be dangerous as he'll probably turn into a martyr.

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                      Andrew Tate, though that may be dangerous as he'll probably turn into a martyr.

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                      There's a good list forming here.

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                        I said nothing about the OS on the phone, why would you assume that I like Android?

                        I am an iPhone user, but that is beside the point, if Swish and BankID could run on an open mobile plattform, I'd be happy with that.

                        My point it to separate the main computer from the payment system while still being convenient.

                        I am a bit confused as how you missed that...

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                        Something attached to the main computer, but with its own firmware/controls is still far better than having no device at all, and relying on external code for verification. Would a discrete box separate from everything else be better (independent of mobile phones as well)? Sure. But a great step that would be progress compared to the current status quo is what the other poster describes, with logic and chip verification running on a device attached to the device or computer with which you wish to pay.

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                          There's a good list forming here.

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                          You know, I actually don't think it'll be a good idea to kill people who are only powerful because they can talk. The more I think about it, the more I think they'll be turned into martyrs by their followers. It'll only embolden them.

                          So, something that really upsets the world in a tangible way would be...

                          Shooting more CEOs. And bankers.

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                            The Donald

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                              Me. I feel like I shouldn't be around anymore since quite some time

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                              I think your real answer is depression, since that's the cause of why you feel the way you feel. We haven't cured depression, but there are ways to combat it. Medical health professionals, medication, friends, mindfulness, exercise, etc are all ways to combat depression. When you're depressed, basically all seem impossible, but you just have to take it one baby step at a time

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                                Racism will never die as we evolved to be tribal. Best we can do as a society is make it unacceptable. Which was happening when I grew up in 70s/80s America. Now we've backtracked and gone all-in with dog whistles.

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                                That's not true. Sure, we have tribalism, but there's no reason it has to be about race. It could be about religion, politics, country of origin, and countless other things

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                                  I think your real answer is depression, since that's the cause of why you feel the way you feel. We haven't cured depression, but there are ways to combat it. Medical health professionals, medication, friends, mindfulness, exercise, etc are all ways to combat depression. When you're depressed, basically all seem impossible, but you just have to take it one baby step at a time

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                                  Thanks for your words. I've been in treatment for a long time, I even believed to be feeling better, but then I became aware of all the lost years of my life. More than a decade now... and then I've been feeling like that again

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                                    After posting my comment, I figured the baseless part might get some critique, but I decided to leave it. I meant it as 'not based in realty or not based on facts', if that helps clarifying.
                                    Also, if you heap in atheism with Christianity and Buddhism, you don't understand what atheism is.
                                    Christianity and Buddhism are actual systems of belief, while atheism is simply a lack of belief in any god or deity.
                                    Anyone who does not believe in some god/deity/greater power, is an atheist. Whether they like it or not, that's what it is. A simple definition about a persons lack of belief. It does not come with any other rules or dogma. No rituals or leadership at all, so it can't be a system.

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                                    I wouldn't say I heap them in together. At times in my life I have rejected a belief in anything 'higher', which fits your definition of atheism, although perhaps my mindset was closer to an agnostic atheist stance, which to me is more along the lines of 'I don't believe, but I can't be certain as there's a limit to my knowledge', as opposed to being a strong proponent of the belief that there is nothing beyond death.

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                                      but IPv4 is so much nicer to read :((((

                                      /s in case it's not obvious

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                                        Affects is such a strange way to put it. Like, "they caught a case of child labor."

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                                        I get you, but how would you phrase it? I expect, BTW, that it might be intended to cover both the extreme of children forced to work in a sweatshop 12/7 and children who have to help their parents with some subsistence tasks.

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                                          Every single fucking isp (at least in the states): nah

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                                          Really? Both my home internet and my mobile phone internet give me ipv6 addresses.

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