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  • spookybogmonster@lemmy.mlS [email protected]

    Where's the well regulated militia you Americans scream about

    So, one could argue that the well regulated militia in question is constituted by the National Guard, as they nominally are the armed forces of individual States, and can be nationalized under certain circumstances.

    Except for the fact that Trump just nationalized the California National Guard when he's nominally not supposed to....

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    The way the legal system in the US works is just incredible. There are things that are very much illegal, but if the president does them apparently everyone is just fine with it.

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      They're too busy gargling republican boot to bother rising up against the tyranny they've cried about for decades.

      To a unnerving amount of people's surprise, they only cared about the power of the state when they thought it was being used improperly (having a tolerant democracy), and are more than happy to see it used the way they want (hurting brown people)

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      It'll come for them at the finish. These brown shirts should pick up a history book. The people who helped the Nazis rise to power did not live to get to enjoy it.

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        They want an excuse to implement martial law.

        If this happens then they have all the reason to bypass all due process and just oppress everyone.

        They want it to go this way. They wanted the National guard to get involved in California's "riots". They are looking for the excuse to throw out the courts, the house, the Senate, the supreme Court... Literally everyone from any say in what happens or any ability to overturn, stop or otherwise impede their ability to control everyone and everything.

        The fucking boot licker repubtards are making sure that it happens, and they'll act like so many others, shocked, when they end up under the boot of the people they voted for.

        As an outsider looking in, this reality is extremely obvious to me. Is it somehow not clear to Americans?

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        It is clear to some of us.

        I'm trying to finish my degree and move to the EU.

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          How about arrest and prosecution under a completely reformed legal system?

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          Nah, line them up along the wall.

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            I mean.. In some ways maybe that is not worse. Perhaps there is some shame associated with working for ICE.

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            It's not shame they feel, it's about self-preservation. They know that if everyone knew who they were they would be reprisals.

            If anybody knew who any of these guys were, and worked out where they lived, I wouldn't give them 24 hours. Eventually they'll deport the wrong person and someone with a gun will decide that the ends justify the means, and that'll be that. It will probably spark a massive military escalation on trump's part, but it won't matter to them.

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              More like ready! fire! aim!

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              They do kind of look like the sort of militia forces that call of duty has taught me to kill.

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                https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:pfna7vcb3qt73bkmbv7op4xu/post/3lryj2pvcy22u

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                Isn't it the job of the opposition party at this point to propose legislation that outlaws this practice? To run candidates on a platform of reigning in these abuses? To run ads with scary music saying how the government is infringing on liberties etc?

                Rural Republicans already fear three letter federal agencies: BLM, ATF, etc. Play to their fears, this very low hanging fruit, Democrats.

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                  https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:pfna7vcb3qt73bkmbv7op4xu/post/3lryj2pvcy22u

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                  Unlawful intimidation at the very least, good grounds to take out your own weapon.

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                  • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                    That's because ICE are cowards. Wouldn't be surprised if they're purposefully leaving areas under direct gang control alone.

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                    they are, at the very least, not performing these kidnappings in “open carry”/“constitutional” states. For obvious reasons.

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                      Nah, line them up along the wall.

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                      Too quick. And someone will need to clean the wall.

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                        Too quick. And someone will need to clean the wall.

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                        ...as opposed to a magical jail cell which requires no cleaning?

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                          Oh so they can breathe through those masks. Isn't it strange how it was difficult for them 4 years ago but now they're totally fine with it.

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                          Tbf, the mask is a bigger inconvenience when you're picking up veggies from the food isle than when chasing down migrants while hoping over a couple of fences. Don't your see? The aerodynamic design of the mask will...

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                          • theacharnian@lemmy.caT [email protected]

                            Isn't it the job of the opposition party at this point to propose legislation that outlaws this practice? To run candidates on a platform of reigning in these abuses? To run ads with scary music saying how the government is infringing on liberties etc?

                            Rural Republicans already fear three letter federal agencies: BLM, ATF, etc. Play to their fears, this very low hanging fruit, Democrats.

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                            California "No Secret Police Act" introduced, would ban police from covering their faces - CBS San Francisco https://share.google/yBJZoO8cseW6R5mc9

                            Also: https://youtu.be/j7SOc_8IhSY

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                              We should respond to these people as what they are, domestic terrorists.

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                                Buy some guns and do it to them then.

                                It's America

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                                  The way the legal system in the US works is just incredible. There are things that are very much illegal, but if the president does them apparently everyone is just fine with it.

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                                  The majority of citizens are not "fine" with it, we are watching the results of the capture of every branch of government.

                                  The template for this actually played out in Texas. Texas has a very weak governors office in terms of formal powers. Under George W Bush the Republican party systematically took control of each state office and coordinated their efforts to effect the agenda of Bush, Perry, and now Abbott.

                                  They are doing the same thing at the federal level with project 2025 under Trump, they took the supreme court, and now they have removed the career civil servants that would refuse illegal orders from Trump.

                                  If history of other dictatorships is any guide the powers of ICE will be expanded steadily and the other law enforcement agencies and military will be continually overshadowed by ICE and eventually subordinated to them, like the Republican guard of Iran or the SS in Nazi Germany.

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                                    Where's the well regulated militia you Americans scream about so loudly when someone suggests not letting a mentally ill child own an assault rifle?

                                    Isn't this exactly the government tyranny that argument is used to defend against?

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                                    Hey dumbass, it turns out that:

                                    1. Each state has its own laws about this. Where I live the same state constitution that ALSO specifically grants us the right to own firearms for self defense explicitly forbids belonging to any private militia.

                                    2. My part (Democrats) is so overwhelmingly anti gun that 99% of aren’t armed to begin with. So precious militia you’re smugly pretending to ask about? Yeah you’re looking at them in the post to begin with. They’re all boot licking fascists.

                                    Nice try though, pretending disarming Americans is the answer to anything other than more deportations, more oppression, and so on.

                                    I’ll give you this: literally neither side gives a shit about the actual underlying problem: mental health. Over half of ALL gun deaths in the USA each year are from suicide. You don’t need an AR15 for that. Banning and removing all guns successfully won’t stop all those people wanting to be dead, but my fellow Democrats don’t care and the fascists sure don’t.

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                                      Too quick. And someone will need to clean the wall.

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                                      Nope. Leave the stains as an example for future fascists to reconsider their position.

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                                        Hey dumbass, it turns out that:

                                        1. Each state has its own laws about this. Where I live the same state constitution that ALSO specifically grants us the right to own firearms for self defense explicitly forbids belonging to any private militia.

                                        2. My part (Democrats) is so overwhelmingly anti gun that 99% of aren’t armed to begin with. So precious militia you’re smugly pretending to ask about? Yeah you’re looking at them in the post to begin with. They’re all boot licking fascists.

                                        Nice try though, pretending disarming Americans is the answer to anything other than more deportations, more oppression, and so on.

                                        I’ll give you this: literally neither side gives a shit about the actual underlying problem: mental health. Over half of ALL gun deaths in the USA each year are from suicide. You don’t need an AR15 for that. Banning and removing all guns successfully won’t stop all those people wanting to be dead, but my fellow Democrats don’t care and the fascists sure don’t.

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                                        LOL. My point was, when you have come down of your high horse, that the opponents of gun control hide behind the Second Amendment and the need to protect themselves from government overreach, but those are the exact same people who jump up to volunteer to do that exact bit of overreach.

                                        Plus I get to have a little dig at your country's ridiculous gun laws at the same time.

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                                          My Army training would kick in, and I would shoot the terrorists.

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                                          /c/iamverybadass

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