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There are plenty of healthy ways to perform masculinity.

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    There are plenty of healthy ways to perform masculinity. If all you've managed to understand from that discourse is "all masculinity is toxic" then I'm afraid you just haven't been paying attention. Toxic masculinity is when young men are taught that the only way to be a man is to be strong, outgoing, possessive, stoic, unemotional and tall (among other things). Toxic masculinity is when men that don't fit those stereotypes are beaten down, verbally, but often physically, because they don't conform. Because they're gay, have "effeminate" hobbies, are short, weak, empathetic, dress sharply, you name it. It's also harmful to women, but more than anything it's men hurting other men for nonconformance.

    Btw why do we never hear about toxic femininity?

    Because it's not a deeply structural societal issue? Before I transitioned, I faced the effects of toxic masculinity every single day, dozens if not hundreds of times a day. Meanwhile, yeah, my conformance to femininity has absolutely been questioned post-transition, but nowhere near as much. Women and girls have spent the last two centuries working through the toxic and smothering nature of traditional femininity, as much as the patriarchal nature of society had allowed us too.

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      There are plenty of healthy ways to perform masculinity. If all you've managed to understand from that discourse is "all masculinity is toxic" then I'm afraid you just haven't been paying attention. Toxic masculinity is when young men are taught that the only way to be a man is to be strong, outgoing, possessive, stoic, unemotional and tall (among other things). Toxic masculinity is when men that don't fit those stereotypes are beaten down, verbally, but often physically, because they don't conform. Because they're gay, have "effeminate" hobbies, are short, weak, empathetic, dress sharply, you name it. It's also harmful to women, but more than anything it's men hurting other men for nonconformance.

      Btw why do we never hear about toxic femininity?

      Because it's not a deeply structural societal issue? Before I transitioned, I faced the effects of toxic masculinity every single day, dozens if not hundreds of times a day. Meanwhile, yeah, my conformance to femininity has absolutely been questioned post-transition, but nowhere near as much. Women and girls have spent the last two centuries working through the toxic and smothering nature of traditional femininity, as much as the patriarchal nature of society had allowed us too.

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      What's wrong with being strong, stoic, unemotional?

      I think it is right to criticize and shame those who show opposite behavior, which decrease performance.

      Let me add one more to list, pussies specially dastards

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        What's wrong with being strong, stoic, unemotional?

        I think it is right to criticize and shame those who show opposite behavior, which decrease performance.

        Let me add one more to list, pussies specially dastards

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        Toxic masculinity is when young men are taught that the only way to be a man is to be strong, outgoing, possessive, stoic, unemotional and tall (among other things).

        I see reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits.

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          Toxic masculinity is when young men are taught that the only way to be a man is to be strong, outgoing, possessive, stoic, unemotional and tall (among other things).

          I see reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits.

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          I see, my bad, wait no, I didn't paid attention. my comment was not only about men, regardless of any gender, if you show these weakness, it is valid to criticize & shame you.

          Edit: fuck mod who removed my comment unjustly. probably, Just because I used p Word for cowards
          Edit2: Noticed error in judgement

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            I see, my bad, wait no, I didn't paid attention. my comment was not only about men, regardless of any gender, if you show these weakness, it is valid to criticize & shame you.

            Edit: fuck mod who removed my comment unjustly. probably, Just because I used p Word for cowards
            Edit2: Noticed error in judgement

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            I don't think it was unjust. It was uncivil, you're a four day old account and this is a four month old thread.

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              I don't think it was unjust. It was uncivil, you're a four day old account and this is a four month old thread.

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              How it was uncivil, can you explain? & person can comment in old post which he find interesting.

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                How it was uncivil, can you explain? & person can comment in old post which he find interesting.

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                It's the combination of all those factors I think. The part that was uncivil was, as you pointed out, using the word pussy as a derogative term.

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