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am i reading too much into a shitpost or is this essentially saying "sterilize drug users"
Abstracting "meth users" to "drug users" is hell of a leap.
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Ah yes, the answer to any social problem: eugenics
This is not eugenics and wouldn't be permanent. People shouldn't be having unplanned pregnancies while addicted to hard drugs. If you cant stop using meth long enough to conceive then how are you gonna stop uaing meth during the pregnancy? Or once the baby is born? I have no problem with drug use and think it should be legalized but i think this would be a good concession to make if it were legalized. If you wanna have a baby just stop using meth. Otherwise go nuts.
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Counterpoint: Put meth in birth control. Maybe people will use it more often. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But isn't too much birth control bad for your health?
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Put both in the drinking water and also put a lime in a coconut
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am i reading too much into a shitpost or is this essentially saying "sterilize drug users"
Because meth heads make such responsible parents and are usually in a great position to have children
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Imagine that... Birth control in all hard drugs.
they should also put it in alcohol and tobacco
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It's always lovely to be reminded that eugenics remains a popular idea so long as you don't call it that.
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It's always lovely to be reminded that eugenics remains a popular idea so long as you don't call it that.
Not eugenics though, if anything it's a rather leftist stance that accepts that you can't control what people put in their body, but tries to mitigates harm for those who have no choice.
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I mean... some drugs (the medicine kind) are prescribed with birth control because they're bad for babies. Is meth not bad for the baby?
Also, if I may, what exactly is the criteria for something to be eugenics? I am not well informed; would, for example, not allowing people who wear black socks to have kids be eugenics?
Rendering people infertile (even temporarily) without their informed consent is unethical. Doing it to a class of people due to your perception that people like them shouldn’t breed is eugenics. This would qualify. The black socks thing probably would too, but it sounds ridiculous because that’s a class of people nobody would realistically target for elimination from the breeding pool.
Offering free birth control to drug users- fine! Dosing them without their consent- no bueno.
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I... don't know that heated, aerosolized birth control of any kind would... be an effective delivery mechanism...
But uh, honestly, his heart's in the right place, a child born addicted to meth is an absolute tragedy, basically just completely fucked from Day 0.
Cutting meth with BC drugs is ... probably way, way, waaaay safer than all the idiots currently cutting it with fentanyl, carfentanyl, the even stronger shit where an actual speck of sand's worth csn be the difference between a high and a completely guaranteed OD.
Meth isn't only smoked
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Not eugenics though, if anything it's a rather leftist stance that accepts that you can't control what people put in their body, but tries to mitigates harm for those who have no choice.
Controlling which people are allowed to reproduce is eugenics.
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Controlling which people are allowed to reproduce is eugenics.
Absolutely, and like most abhorrent evil the first step is such a positive idea you cant possibly object.
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am i reading too much into a shitpost or is this essentially saying "sterilize drug users"
Absolutely is. Im guessing only temporarily though. Pretty sure you can just stop taking your birth control pills and start ovulating properly again.
Seems like a pretty good idea as long as it doesn't get slippery sloped. No babies while mething about.
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Imagine that... Birth control in all hard drugs.
This is the mistake, because some "hard drugs" are fine, they're just hangups for idiots who got tragic amounts of power.
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This is the mistake, because some "hard drugs" are fine, they're just hangups for idiots who got tragic amounts of power.
Idk, I don't think anyone should make a baby on drugs. I'm a fan of drugs, I just don't think people should make babies on them. Except maybe mushrooms.
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It's always lovely to be reminded that eugenics remains a popular idea so long as you don't call it that.
I mean, this is a good idea for a big reason other than genes though, people who are currently addicted to meth shouldn't be having kids, not from a gene perspective but as an unfit parent and as an unsafe pregnancy standpoint.
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It's always lovely to be reminded that eugenics remains a popular idea so long as you don't call it that.
I mean we do take kids off crackheads. Repeatedly in some cases.
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It's always lovely to be reminded that eugenics remains a popular idea so long as you don't call it that.
wrote last edited by [email protected]This is only because the word "eugenics" has been made a bad word because people assume that anything called "eugenics" must be similar to the horrible things the Nazis did. It's the non-central fallacy -- such things are eugenics only in the same way that Martin Luther king is technically a criminal (he did violate the law by protesting) or abortion is murder (a "human being" does "die").
Polygenic scoring on embryos is legal and eminently doable if you're wealthy enough to afford it; it's a very effective way to eliminate the risk of debilitating genetic diseases like Down's Syndrome, and can greatly reduce the risk of things like Alzheimer's or some types of cancer. It also can improve the IQ of your child by up to ~8 points or so, which correlates (plausibly causally) with higher education and income in life. So basically, it's an effective way to help make your child more privileged. Right now it's only affordable by the very wealthy though, but perhaps in ten years it will be very cheap.
Notice though that it's unrelated to race pseudoscience and murder, even though race pseudoscientists and nazis like to talk about genetics and IQ.
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Is that Valtteri Bottas ?
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Controlling which people are allowed to reproduce is eugenics.
Birth control pills are eugenics?
