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This is the mistake, because some "hard drugs" are fine, they're just hangups for idiots who got tragic amounts of power.
Idk, I don't think anyone should make a baby on drugs. I'm a fan of drugs, I just don't think people should make babies on them. Except maybe mushrooms.
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It's always lovely to be reminded that eugenics remains a popular idea so long as you don't call it that.
I mean, this is a good idea for a big reason other than genes though, people who are currently addicted to meth shouldn't be having kids, not from a gene perspective but as an unfit parent and as an unsafe pregnancy standpoint.
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It's always lovely to be reminded that eugenics remains a popular idea so long as you don't call it that.
I mean we do take kids off crackheads. Repeatedly in some cases.
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It's always lovely to be reminded that eugenics remains a popular idea so long as you don't call it that.
wrote last edited by [email protected]This is only because the word "eugenics" has been made a bad word because people assume that anything called "eugenics" must be similar to the horrible things the Nazis did. It's the non-central fallacy -- such things are eugenics only in the same way that Martin Luther king is technically a criminal (he did violate the law by protesting) or abortion is murder (a "human being" does "die").
Polygenic scoring on embryos is legal and eminently doable if you're wealthy enough to afford it; it's a very effective way to eliminate the risk of debilitating genetic diseases like Down's Syndrome, and can greatly reduce the risk of things like Alzheimer's or some types of cancer. It also can improve the IQ of your child by up to ~8 points or so, which correlates (plausibly causally) with higher education and income in life. So basically, it's an effective way to help make your child more privileged. Right now it's only affordable by the very wealthy though, but perhaps in ten years it will be very cheap.
Notice though that it's unrelated to race pseudoscience and murder, even though race pseudoscientists and nazis like to talk about genetics and IQ.
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Is that Valtteri Bottas ?
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Controlling which people are allowed to reproduce is eugenics.
Birth control pills are eugenics?
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Meth isn't only smoked
I've spent a time homeless.
Did my best to stay as far away from all that as best as possible, but uh... nah, it is mainly smoked.
Sure, you can try some other method, you're a lot more likely to OD, get an infection that never heals and goes gangrene... but you can try...
Unless your definition of 'meth' is so broad that it also includes like, taking adderol as prescribed... yeah, most people smoke meth.
Snorting and IV is just way, way too fucking dangerous given how anything could be cut with god knows how much of what.
Saw people find that out the hard way... still got PTSD from doing my best as basically the only homeless person at the shelter/encampment that knew how to do any real level of first aid.
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Because meth heads make such responsible parents and are usually in a great position to have children
"no no you see, in this case, eugenics is justified!"
i don’t care. it’s still wrong.
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Birth control pills are eugenics?
no, because people choose to take them
if they’re forced, then yes, it’s eugenics
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no, because people choose to take them
if they’re forced, then yes, it’s eugenics
They are not forced to take it, they can just not take the meth and have children.
I would really like your opinion on children being "forced" to have MMR vaccination in order to attend pre-school? Do you think it's immoral to take that bodily autonomy away in order to make it safer for all the rest of the children?
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Birth control pills are eugenics?
Prescribed with any sort of trickery, skullduggery, or hooliganism? Yes.
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Prescribed with any sort of trickery, skullduggery, or hooliganism? Yes.
Your interpretation presupposes malice and lack of transparency.
Almost anything can be made to look really bad with that attitude.
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I've spent a time homeless.
Did my best to stay as far away from all that as best as possible, but uh... nah, it is mainly smoked.
Sure, you can try some other method, you're a lot more likely to OD, get an infection that never heals and goes gangrene... but you can try...
Unless your definition of 'meth' is so broad that it also includes like, taking adderol as prescribed... yeah, most people smoke meth.
Snorting and IV is just way, way too fucking dangerous given how anything could be cut with god knows how much of what.
Saw people find that out the hard way... still got PTSD from doing my best as basically the only homeless person at the shelter/encampment that knew how to do any real level of first aid.
Snorting would be the other I've generally seen, nobody wants to IV that shit though.
You could also eat it. No methhead does, but they could
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They are not forced to take it, they can just not take the meth and have children.
I would really like your opinion on children being "forced" to have MMR vaccination in order to attend pre-school? Do you think it's immoral to take that bodily autonomy away in order to make it safer for all the rest of the children?
no, because MMR vaccines have been proven to be safe, and you are informed that your child must be vaccinated to go school; it’s not like the kid is vaccinated against their knowledge once they get there
birth control pills can have side effects, sometimes very detrimental, and in this hypothetical scenario they’re hidden in the meth, so you don’t even know it’s there
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Snorting would be the other I've generally seen, nobody wants to IV that shit though.
You could also eat it. No methhead does, but they could
I tried to dissuade a strung out guy from crushing it, mixing it with some liquid, and then shooting it up.
He died, despite my best attempts both pre and post OD.
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It's always lovely to be reminded that eugenics remains a popular idea so long as you don't call it that.
We already practice eugenics. Its a term that covers a lot of things. There's a line between good eugenics and bad eugenics. I'd say secretly bputting birth control in drugs to control population is bad eugenics.
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am i reading too much into a shitpost or is this essentially saying "sterilize drug users"
I disagree with the eugenics involved here. but the real solution is free healthcare with accessible birth control.
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Your interpretation presupposes malice and lack of transparency.
Almost anything can be made to look really bad with that attitude.
malice is irrelevant
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This is only because the word "eugenics" has been made a bad word because people assume that anything called "eugenics" must be similar to the horrible things the Nazis did. It's the non-central fallacy -- such things are eugenics only in the same way that Martin Luther king is technically a criminal (he did violate the law by protesting) or abortion is murder (a "human being" does "die").
Polygenic scoring on embryos is legal and eminently doable if you're wealthy enough to afford it; it's a very effective way to eliminate the risk of debilitating genetic diseases like Down's Syndrome, and can greatly reduce the risk of things like Alzheimer's or some types of cancer. It also can improve the IQ of your child by up to ~8 points or so, which correlates (plausibly causally) with higher education and income in life. So basically, it's an effective way to help make your child more privileged. Right now it's only affordable by the very wealthy though, but perhaps in ten years it will be very cheap.
Notice though that it's unrelated to race pseudoscience and murder, even though race pseudoscientists and nazis like to talk about genetics and IQ.
jsomae, do you want Gattaca ? Because that’s how you get Gattaca !
And next for sale we have this worker with very small hands, through multiple generation of human breeding we have developped this fine pure bred specimen perfectly adapted to reaching into tight spaces and machinery, its mind is docile and obedient and doesn't get spooked easily by the loud sound of working high speed hydraulic presses. Very agile with tools and can read schematics but no artistic ability nor speech as a side effect of the genetic modification, on the plus side, they cannot form unions.
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This is only because the word "eugenics" has been made a bad word because people assume that anything called "eugenics" must be similar to the horrible things the Nazis did. It's the non-central fallacy -- such things are eugenics only in the same way that Martin Luther king is technically a criminal (he did violate the law by protesting) or abortion is murder (a "human being" does "die").
Polygenic scoring on embryos is legal and eminently doable if you're wealthy enough to afford it; it's a very effective way to eliminate the risk of debilitating genetic diseases like Down's Syndrome, and can greatly reduce the risk of things like Alzheimer's or some types of cancer. It also can improve the IQ of your child by up to ~8 points or so, which correlates (plausibly causally) with higher education and income in life. So basically, it's an effective way to help make your child more privileged. Right now it's only affordable by the very wealthy though, but perhaps in ten years it will be very cheap.
Notice though that it's unrelated to race pseudoscience and murder, even though race pseudoscientists and nazis like to talk about genetics and IQ.
There are other hazards and i don't trust this society to deal with any of them in healthy ways.
