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Netanyahu Says It’s Antisemitic For Israeli Soldiers To Describe Their Own Atrocities

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

    It is actually impressive that the leader of Israel is the bad guy

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    I always find it weird when I remember that Netanyahu is just some dude from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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    • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

      Radical Buddhists

      Now, I am not going to disagree here because I don't know a lot about it, but the only radical Buddhist I ever heard about was a dude who set himself on fire to protest the Vietnamese government oppressing Buddhists in the 60s and monks in China fighting against tyranical rulers that would have exterminated them. Have any radical Buddhists ever hurt others for not believing in their system of faith?

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      Look into the ongoing Rohingya genocide.

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        I disagree.

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        I respect that. It saddens me though.

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          I respect that. It saddens me though.

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          The atrocities committed by people under the flag of every religion there is saddens me, though.

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            Can we make hoarding wealth anti semetic, too? Or bribery of politicians? No? Then let's stop throwing this shit around like it has the same meaning anymore. The calls are from inside the house.

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            • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

              they apply the exact same argument to Jews as they use for pretty much every other minority

              I think the glaring note is how they consider "Jew" a minority, despite largely being white.

              Who does and doesn't qualify as white is a constantly moving goalpost, depending on the attitudes of the current regime.

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              Any group that can be grouped together into a small group is a minority. Don't have to have a separate skin colour for that.

              Polish people in Germany are a minority. Turkish people in Austria are a minority. Protestants are a minority in the Republic of Ireland. Gay and trans people are a minority.

              The defining factors of a minority in regards to this kind of debates are:

              • It's a category that can be used to group people together. The group doesn't have to be internally consistent but are lumped into this group from the outside (e.g. all "foreigners" can be lumped into one group, even though these people are from all sorts of different countries and backgrounds and might not even interact with each other all that much. Like, for example, a white Nazi from Russia is just as much a foreigner as a black hippie from Ghana, even though these two people really have nothing in common.)
              • The resulting group is smaller than the majority group.
              • Resulting from these facts, the larger majority has the political power to govern the minority group via laws and executive even against the will of the minority group (and often without even understanding the minority group)
              • And resulting from that fact, there needs to be some kind of protection against misgovernment against that minority group that isn't large enough to effect actual political change themselves.
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                ... which is actually anti-semitic because Gazans are Semites too

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                So do the people that support Netanyahu not recognize this hypocrisy or are they all in on the grift?

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                • laserjet@lemmy.dbzer0.comL [email protected]

                  the existence of a specific term is due to pervasive and long standing existence of antisemitism in Europe.

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                  By that logic there is even more reason for there to be a special word for being prejudiced against the Roma People (for those who don't know, they're commonly called Gypsies).

                  By the way, the Nazis targetted them as much as they targetted the Jewish People, yet we almost never hear about the genocide of Roma People in the Holocaust.

                  Two weights two measures, same as always: the Jewish People just went from the "untermenschen" column to the "ubermeschen" one whilst other ethnic groups did not.

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                  • archmageazor@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    Is Israel trying to give retroactive justification to Germany ca. 1940?

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                    Only if you believe the racist idea that a nation, any nation, can represent everybody who is part of an ethnicity, i.e. and specifically in this case, that Mathematically the group "Jewish People" and the group "Israel and its supporters" are exactly the same group.

                    If however the group "Israel and it's supporters" is but a subset of the group "Jewish People", then the actions of the subset of the larger group do not justify punishing the wider group, same as, say, the actions of the Ku-Klux-Klan do not justify punishing everbody who is deemed White or the actions of ISIS do not justify punishing everybody who is Muslim.

                    I think the idea that the actions or victimization of some who are part of a broader group defined by nothing else than the ethnicity they were born into justifies a different treatment of everybody of the broader ethnic group, is THE most common racist trope there is, to the point that even liberals defend that shit (whilst, with zero irony or self awareness, calling it "positive").

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                    • frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.worldF [email protected]

                      I really wish genociders would stop calling criticism of genocide "antisemitism". it just nullifies the impact of the word. also as I have said many times before, Palestinians are semites

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                      He's such a shit stain towards Jews. He's devaluing the word which is dangerous given he's already done so much to make Jewish people unsafe around the world

                      The rise of anti-Semitism is for the most part due to his actions post October 6th.

                      Fuck him. My kids did not fear their half-Jewish heritage. Now they do. What is he doing for Jewish people again?

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                        Antisemitic has lost all meaning when it just serves to perpetuate genocide.

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                          War Crime Benji is concerned the truth casts shade on Israel ?

                          And he calls it anti semetic?

                          Maybe syphilis is affecting the language centers of his brain, because he seems to have no understanding of that word.

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                            Alright, I spent a bit too long on this so I may as well post it somewhere.
                            Miles is Antisemitic

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                            • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                              Hamas is antisemitic and has publicly bragged about it

                              Evil brings evil

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                              This is false. Hamas since its founding has repeatedly stated they only fight against Israel because of resistance to settler colonialism and ethnic cleansing and not because of their religion.

                              You can hear the founder of Hamas say so here: https://youtu.be/FCxRZrBYLVg

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                                Well, maybe in the original meaning of the word. Most Palestinians do speak a Semitic language. The word usually now mean anti-jewish though.

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                                These days it seems to mean anti what ever views Israel wants you to have

                                It has been so watered down it isn't even funny

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                                  The atrocities committed by people under the flag of every religion there is saddens me, though.

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                                  How are they different to the atrocities committed without religion being involved?

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                                    How are they different to the atrocities committed without religion being involved?

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                                    The false righteousness and a cult of accepting it as good or being ostracized, otherwise it’s the exact same, because religion doesn't improve things, it only gives a false sense of justification to commit attrocity.

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                                    • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]

                                      Sure, but Israel depends on hamas to justify their genocide.
                                      They have funded them.

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                                      Witb justification or not israel will always oppress palestinians because it believe all rhe land is jewish.

                                      Israel didn't fund hamas, qatar did. Unlike hamas, israel collect palestinian taxes in west bank and directly fund them with part of it

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                                        “It’s not really the religion…”

                                        Explains how it is, in fact, religion.

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                                        Imperialism, supermasism and ressource controls.

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                                          The atrocities committed by people under the flag of every religion there is saddens me, though.

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                                          The urss was not religious it was atheist they still killed 1.5 millions afghani

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