Netanyahu Says It’s Antisemitic For Israeli Soldiers To Describe Their Own Atrocities
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I've met Russian-speaking Israelis in TG, and even if he hasn't, they already think that.
What is TG?
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What is TG?
Telegram
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they are like zionist version of oprah: you're anti-semetic, you;re antisemitc, everbody is anti-semitic.
They've been riding that "if you __________ you're antisemitic" horse really hard lately. If they keep over using it they're gonna eventually run out of sympathy and ruin it for the people are rather more in need of it to fight actual antisemitic bullshit, including themselves.
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Well, fuck religion and the hate they all spew.
It's not really the religion though, basically all religions come with a set of believes in what is wrong and right and the hate-spewing war criminals will say it has to do with their religion, but they do not follow the believes set out by their religion. They are only using religion as a tool to gain power over the people that do follow the believes of that religion.
On the other hand, there have been Jewish states before modern Israel, and it always ended in tears. Maybe believing that you're God's chosen people inevitably causes you to act with an arrogance and belief in your own invincibilty that eventually causes your country to be destroyed. If you believe God literally wants you to have a piece of dirt, why practice good diplomacy and have good relations with your neighbors? Your only concern is keeping God happy. In the Old Testament, the Israelites suffered invasion only when they somehow let God down. With that as your cultural foundation, what does that do to your nation's foreign policy?
Part of me really is starting to wonder if giving folks who think they're God's special chosen people was a terrible mistake.
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I think he’s antisemitic because he’s carrying atrocities against Semitic people. Arabs are Semitic people.
The real irony of all this is that the people being genocides right now in Gaza have a much closer genetic relationship to the actual human beings who wrote the Torah than those who are genociding them. We're watching the actual descendents of the ancient Israelites being exterminated right now.
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Someone needs to ask Netanyahu what he thinks antisemitic means
if he was forced to define it, it would probably be something like "anything or anyone that disagrees with Bibi being in power forever".
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They've been riding that "if you __________ you're antisemitic" horse really hard lately. If they keep over using it they're gonna eventually run out of sympathy and ruin it for the people are rather more in need of it to fight actual antisemitic bullshit, including themselves.
Yeah, the boy who cried "WOLF!" all the time eventually got eaten by wolves.
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That's the most antisemitic thing I've ever heard
wrote on last edited by [email protected]^ That's antisemitic!
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“It’s not really the religion…”
Explains how it is, in fact, religion.
Perhaps learn to read.
It’s people that are the problem. People with their shitty attitudes.
Religion is not the problem.
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Is there anything that isn't antisemitic left?
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It is actually impressive that the leader of Israel is the bad guy
The first pm of Israel was a genocidal terrorist. This is the status quo for states built on genocide.
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It is actually impressive that the leader of Israel is the bad guy
When Israel was being founded in 1948 the UN sent a diplomat to help negotiate between the Palestinians and Israeli populations. He was a Swedish man who negotiated the release of over 30,000 prisoners from Nazi Germany in 1945. He was assassinated by Israeli Zionists.
Zionism is just weaponizing religion for the use by a government in my opinion. If that's how Zionists acted when they were formed, why should we expect different from Zionists there now. -
I've never thought it fair or reasonable that the Jews have their own word for racism or supposedly committing racist actions against Jews is worse than committing the same act to others.
Tbh, it used to be justified, and in some circumstances it still is justified.
Jews used to be the biggest "live-in" minority in Europe. So, a minority that lives in the same country and doesn't have a separate homeland. Kinda similar to black people in the USA. Contrary to regular migration, groups like that can't return home and they can't just assimilate.
If you look at regular migration, if someone's family has lived in the country for 4 generations, they aren't foreigners any more. Someone might say they have a Polish grandma, or they might say they are of Italian ancestry, but they aren't Polish or Italian themselves any more.
Jews, especially before WW2, couldn't do that. They were a discriminated against minority that was kept separate of the rest of society. A bit like black people in the USA after slavery was abolished.
So racism against them was a whole other order than the regular racism/xenophobia faced by other immigrants.
WW2 showed how bad that special kind of racism turned out to be, but WW2 wasn't an isolated event in time or location. Anti-Semitism had been rampant for centuries if not millennia before that, and it wasn't just localized to Germany. Just read up on e.g. Henry Ford, just to pick a random name from the bucket.
That said, things have shifted after WW2. Specifically antisemitic laws are pretty much gone in the western world, religion in general is not nearly as critically important as it was and there are now more than enough people of Jewish descent in the western world who don't identify as Jews or who aren't noticeable as Jews. And for a large part, society has accepted a special "protection" status for Jews to prevent a second Holocaust.
In consequence, the hate against Jews has mostly shifted into hate against Muslims, and many far-right/right-extremist people are now arguing that they can't be Nazis because they now don't hate Jews but instead hate Muslims. As if the problem with the Nazis wasn't genocide and suppression of minorities, but instead genocide and suppression of Jews specifically.
But yeah, Nazis will be Nazis, and they will argue in bad faith to justify themselves. Nothing new there.
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I'm waiting for the day where he says reading the Torah is antisemitic.
Like many evangelicals have done with the depiction of Jesus in the Bible.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism
Zionist antisemitism or antisemitic Zionism refers to a phenomenon in which antisemites express support for Zionism and the State of Israel. In some cases, this support may be promoted for explicitly antisemitic reasons. Historically, this type of antisemitism has been most notable among Christian Zionists, who may perpetrate religious antisemitism while being outspoken in their support for Jewish sovereignty in Israel due to their interpretation of Christian eschatology. Similarly, people who identify with the political far-right, particularly in Europe and the United States, may support the Zionist movement because they seek to expel Jews from their countries and see Zionism as the least complicated method (vis-à-vis ethnic cleansing or genocide) of achieving this goal and satisfying their racial antisemitism.
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The French-Jewish journalist Alain Gresh noted that the antisemitic right-wing politician and Nazi collaborator Xavier Vallat said that "Jews would never integrate into France and that they had to go to Israel.
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The historian David N. Myers wrote that "Leading white nationalists such as Richard Spencer and Jared Taylor liken their movement to Zionism, seeing it as a model for the kind of monoethnic purity they favor in [the United States]." Myers states that the "combination of pro-Israel and antisemitic sensibilities" is common within American politics due to the combined influences of the "Christian evangelical Right with its end-game theology", "archly conservative" Catholics, and the political ideology of Donald Trump.
If you generalize the stance away from Jews, "foreigners should go back to their home countries" is a very popular talking point for right-wing politicians, right-wing extremists and nazis.
So it's quite beyond me that anyone would be surprised that they apply the exact same argument to Jews as they use for pretty much every other minority that has a country that they can send them back to.
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Perhaps learn to read.
It’s people that are the problem. People with their shitty attitudes.
Religion is not the problem.
Potato potato.
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They've been riding that "if you __________ you're antisemitic" horse really hard lately. If they keep over using it they're gonna eventually run out of sympathy and ruin it for the people are rather more in need of it to fight actual antisemitic bullshit, including themselves.
They've got to remember there's been a lot of 1488 types about who have just been waiting decades for their views to go mainstream again.
And this dipshit is going to make it happen.
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Potato potato.
It’s really not.
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Is there anything that isn't antisemitic left?
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wrote on last edited by [email protected]We know Hamas lie grossly, eg about the Al Ahli hospital massacre of 500. Let's assume IDF lies too.
Which makes more sense though:
IDF distributing aid in order to shoot civilians (even though it could shoot them whenever, wherever) or...
Hamas is pissed off about IDF limiting its opportunity to hijack the aid?
