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Can you believe all those wildfires in [your country here]?

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    50% of fossil carbon has been released in the last 30 years.

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    So it was gen z who did it then.

    Do you not listen to yourself how moronic that argument is?

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      So it was gen z who did it then.

      Do you not listen to yourself how moronic that argument is?

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      Hi shit for brains. I was replying to a comment about the industrial revolution beginning 200 years ago. I wasn't making a comment on gen z or baby boomers. I was pointing out that the people alive today are the ones responsible for climate change - not the people who lived over a hundred years ago. Bless you, I hope you have a great day.

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        Sure, sure it's the "boomers" fault, not the fault of countless corporations. I'll bet people are pretty much as damaging as they were four decades ago.

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        The boomers have held the levers of power longer than any other generation, at least in America. It is their fault because they run the companies and they run the government.

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          This is wrong. It’s 20-25%. And the last 50 years includes a whole bunch on non-boomers and a massive industrialization of Asia. WTF is up with you people and “boomers”? There’s always going to be old people. And all of them were formerly young people.

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          I didn't say a word about boomers, I was replying to a post about the industrial revolution and 200 years ago.

          But to get back to my point, in 1993 the cumulative emissions were 861 billion tons and in 2023 it was 1770 billion tons. So almost perfectly doubled in 30 years.

          https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-co2-emissions-region?stackMode=absolute&time=1993..latest

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            1. Them, still, because they are the ones who did the things.

            This is like asking if I am still going to be blaming Japan for bombing Pearl Harbor, Andrew Jackson for the Trail of Tears.

            1. Well for example, Gen Z and Millenials have been, collectively, much more concerned about climate change and trying to have their voices heard, but the Boomers have also destroyed both the US Political System/Government and also Economy, and you... can't really socially act from a position of little to no social power.

            Your framing of this question does two things:

            It misses the point that climate change is a time sensitive issue with a window for being able to address it. That window is largely passed now, now we are in the stage of 'how do we mitigate/survive this' instead of 'how do we prevent this'.

            And this is also victim blaming. Hey I burned down your house, why are you homeless, what are YOU doing to solve YOUR problem?

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            The generational level of “concern” can be measured in voter turnout data. It isn’t very good.

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              The boomers have held the levers of power longer than any other generation, at least in America. It is their fault because they run the companies and they run the government.

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              Right but like our grandads? Like my grandad did that?

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                Right but like our grandads? Like my grandad did that?

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                Why does everyone take statements about a population and then try to use a specific example to disprove it?

                I'm talking about generalities. Look at who the majority of boomers vote for. Spoiler, it's not democrats. I don't know your grandpa. I don't know what anyone's grandpa did. But collectively, generally speaking, the stats say our grandpa's share blame for voting R for decades and at the very least, for voting for corpo neolibs every primary.

                Because hey, guess what, it's not the new generations that have the highest participation in primary votes.

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                  Why does everyone take statements about a population and then try to use a specific example to disprove it?

                  I'm talking about generalities. Look at who the majority of boomers vote for. Spoiler, it's not democrats. I don't know your grandpa. I don't know what anyone's grandpa did. But collectively, generally speaking, the stats say our grandpa's share blame for voting R for decades and at the very least, for voting for corpo neolibs every primary.

                  Because hey, guess what, it's not the new generations that have the highest participation in primary votes.

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                  Good point, but we're letting them do it? We know better and we're allowing it. Or, when it gets pointed out next that no party is offering to actually fix it, is it still their fault?

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                    Why does everyone take statements about a population and then try to use a specific example to disprove it?

                    I'm talking about generalities. Look at who the majority of boomers vote for. Spoiler, it's not democrats. I don't know your grandpa. I don't know what anyone's grandpa did. But collectively, generally speaking, the stats say our grandpa's share blame for voting R for decades and at the very least, for voting for corpo neolibs every primary.

                    Because hey, guess what, it's not the new generations that have the highest participation in primary votes.

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                    The last election young men overwhelmingly voted for Trump

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                    • S [email protected]
                      1. Them, still, because they are the ones who did the things.

                      This is like asking if I am still going to be blaming Japan for bombing Pearl Harbor, Andrew Jackson for the Trail of Tears.

                      1. Well for example, Gen Z and Millenials have been, collectively, much more concerned about climate change and trying to have their voices heard, but the Boomers have also destroyed both the US Political System/Government and also Economy, and you... can't really socially act from a position of little to no social power.

                      Your framing of this question does two things:

                      It misses the point that climate change is a time sensitive issue with a window for being able to address it. That window is largely passed now, now we are in the stage of 'how do we mitigate/survive this' instead of 'how do we prevent this'.

                      And this is also victim blaming. Hey I burned down your house, why are you homeless, what are YOU doing to solve YOUR problem?

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                      Then why did gen z males vote for Trump?

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