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      šŸ‘ Modern šŸ‘ Honors šŸ‘ Programs šŸ‘ Exist šŸ‘ To šŸ‘ Segregate šŸ‘ Integrated šŸ‘ Schools šŸ‘

      Your kid isn't special. They just came out on the top side of a system designed to deprive a percentage of your neighbors of quality elementary education.

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        šŸ‘ Modern šŸ‘ Honors šŸ‘ Programs šŸ‘ Exist šŸ‘ To šŸ‘ Segregate šŸ‘ Integrated šŸ‘ Schools šŸ‘

        Your kid isn't special. They just came out on the top side of a system designed to deprive a percentage of your neighbors of quality elementary education.

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          Like... Which YouTube conspiracy videos? Hard to find ones that aren't a mouthpiece for some sort of political party, I could use some expert recommendations.

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            Like... Which YouTube conspiracy videos? Hard to find ones that aren't a mouthpiece for some sort of political party, I could use some expert recommendations.

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            I have watched almost everything from this channel and always thought that they're pretty objective

            https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvOF-MfWe6bE6LQv295myALQIa-7rEuIj

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              It's a me, mario

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                Like... Which YouTube conspiracy videos? Hard to find ones that aren't a mouthpiece for some sort of political party, I could use some expert recommendations.

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                Flesh Simulator

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                  šŸ‘ Modern šŸ‘ Honors šŸ‘ Programs šŸ‘ Exist šŸ‘ To šŸ‘ Segregate šŸ‘ Integrated šŸ‘ Schools šŸ‘

                  Your kid isn't special. They just came out on the top side of a system designed to deprive a percentage of your neighbors of quality elementary education.

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                  I would disagree. A lot of countries provide a multi track secondary education too account for the desire and ability of different students. Having different education tracks isn't just American invention. It just happens to be that there is an easier jump from the lower education track to college in the USA compared to other countries.

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                    Like... Which YouTube conspiracy videos? Hard to find ones that aren't a mouthpiece for some sort of political party, I could use some expert recommendations.

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                    FWIW, The Why Files does a great job of telling the story, then hitting some of the most wobbly points. If there's no direct evidence to fully debunk, they say that. Runs the full gambit of old school to really new stuff. Tons of fun, totally worth the time.

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                      I would disagree. A lot of countries provide a multi track secondary education too account for the desire and ability of different students. Having different education tracks isn't just American invention. It just happens to be that there is an easier jump from the lower education track to college in the USA compared to other countries.

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                      A lot of countries provide a multi track secondary education too account for the desire and ability of different students.

                      Tracking students into different careers is very different from separating students into "Smart" and "Dumb" cohorts, particularly when the membership in the "Smart" cohort is more closely aligned with one's street address than one's scholastic aptitude.

                      Even then, career tracking absolutely can and does take on a segregationist character when the wages of the labor make access to certain career paths a purchasable privilege. That's how you get all the Eton College grads going into politics and journalism as a single congealed cohort, regardless of the competency of the school's members.

                      there is an easier jump from the lower education track to college in the USA compared to other countries

                      The US has been at the forefront of privatized credentialing. And that's created a rich vein of for-profit schools that exist above the High School grade, which people are obligated to assume debts to attend in order to be accredited for certain jobs.

                      That's not a "jump" between tracks, though. That's just the elementary public education system getting defunded. We're leaving large gaps between "what you need to graduate high school" and "what you need to start your professional career".

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                        Wait, is that what I'm supposed to be doing now?

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                          A lot of countries provide a multi track secondary education too account for the desire and ability of different students.

                          Tracking students into different careers is very different from separating students into "Smart" and "Dumb" cohorts, particularly when the membership in the "Smart" cohort is more closely aligned with one's street address than one's scholastic aptitude.

                          Even then, career tracking absolutely can and does take on a segregationist character when the wages of the labor make access to certain career paths a purchasable privilege. That's how you get all the Eton College grads going into politics and journalism as a single congealed cohort, regardless of the competency of the school's members.

                          there is an easier jump from the lower education track to college in the USA compared to other countries

                          The US has been at the forefront of privatized credentialing. And that's created a rich vein of for-profit schools that exist above the High School grade, which people are obligated to assume debts to attend in order to be accredited for certain jobs.

                          That's not a "jump" between tracks, though. That's just the elementary public education system getting defunded. We're leaving large gaps between "what you need to graduate high school" and "what you need to start your professional career".

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                          Even then, career tracking absolutely can and does take on a segregationist character when the wages of the labor make access to certain career paths a purchasable privilege.

                          And yet it appears in most countries, including Communist ones like China. This isn't a uniquely American action.

                          That's how you get all the Eton College grads going into politics and journalism as a single congealed cohort.

                          That's more due to family connections. Most UK students taking their A-Levels aren't going into politics and journalism.

                          And that's created a rich vein of for-profit schools that exist above the High School grade, which people are obligated to assume debts to attend in order to be accredited for certain jobs.

                          The USA still has one of the best public university systems in the world. This includes community college programs which help "lower" track students get a 4 year college degree.

                          And, going back to what I've said earlier, other countries have degree restrictions on their jobs as well. Senior government positions in other countries are usually the domain of the college educated, with a much lower percentage of their populations having a college degree.

                          You keep pointing to things happening in the USA as a uniquely American set-up and therefore evil without being able to contrast that with his the rest of the world handles secondary education.

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