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    Okay, now do it every weekend until something changes. That's why protests are successful in places like France, because they repeat until it's no longer possible to ignore.

    Edit: Cleaned up that last line.

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      The NY Times was a leading cheer leader of the Third Reich, and they are a leading cheer leader of the fourth.

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      Feel like it's a missed opportunity to not be referring to these guys as the Third Rich as a simple pun.

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      • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

        Okay, now do it every weekend until something changes. That's why protests are successful in places like France, because they repeat until it's no longer possible to ignore.

        Edit: Cleaned up that last line.

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        Yeah, this is crucial here. We also had large protests in Germany last year. Once, maybe twice. Then everyone went home and let the fascists continue to take more influence and the supposed center followed suit and now the country has shifted significantly to the far right and the minister of interior is in open defiance of the courts to abuse refugee seekers.

        You have to protest every week and if your demands are not met you have to escalate protests. That includes things like striking, blocking the police/ICE thugs from carrying out their oppressive missions but will also need you to fight back, if you are attacked.

        Not keeping up the pressure now would be a great blunder, unfortunately one that many "liberals" or "social democrats" love to fall into.

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          Yeah, this is crucial here. We also had large protests in Germany last year. Once, maybe twice. Then everyone went home and let the fascists continue to take more influence and the supposed center followed suit and now the country has shifted significantly to the far right and the minister of interior is in open defiance of the courts to abuse refugee seekers.

          You have to protest every week and if your demands are not met you have to escalate protests. That includes things like striking, blocking the police/ICE thugs from carrying out their oppressive missions but will also need you to fight back, if you are attacked.

          Not keeping up the pressure now would be a great blunder, unfortunately one that many "liberals" or "social democrats" love to fall into.

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          I don't know if I'd lump in democratic socialists with liberals but I agree with everything else that you said.

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            Peaceful protests work because they get you out and you meet like-minded people and act together as a community.

            It you go out there hoping for instant change, then you're missing the point. You need to talk to people, exchange contacts, schedule more get-togethers, look to talk with your local government as a group, amass enough votes to get someone among you as a representative or their staff.

            Do this in enough cities that the protests took place and then it's done.

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            • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

              I don't know if I'd lump in democratic socialists with liberals but I agree with everything else that you said.

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              Social democrats are hardly "democratic socialists" in almost all European countries. By now in countries like Germany or Denmark the "Social democrats" are Neoliberals with a hard on for authoritarian and racist policies.

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                Social democrats are hardly "democratic socialists" in almost all European countries. By now in countries like Germany or Denmark the "Social democrats" are Neoliberals with a hard on for authoritarian and racist policies.

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                Ah okay, I thought we were talking about actual social democrats, not LARPers.

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                  There has been no mention of it in Swedish media either. The shooting of Melissa Hortman and her husband was covered, but nothing about the No kings afaik.

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                    They're all state controlled. I cant tell you often enough.

                    Capitalism is not a free system. The media only says what it is supposed to say. That has been proven countless times.

                    The reason why some mainstream media posts "critical" articles is to make the ruse believable.

                    Please read anti imperialist sources and be prepared to have the crudest awakening possible.

                    What we in the west call "propaganda" by eastern states is mostly true and our understanding of "history* is mostly false. We are the baddies.

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                      Feel like it's a missed opportunity to not be referring to these guys as the Third Rich as a simple pun.

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                      Nice!

                      I'd also like to add "Turd Reich" to the submission box.

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                        Shits all over the place. Stop with this nonsense.

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                        • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

                          Okay, now do it every weekend until something changes. That's why protests are successful in places like France, because they repeat until it's no longer possible to ignore.

                          Edit: Cleaned up that last line.

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                          They also burn things in France.

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                            The NY Times was a leading cheer leader of the Third Reich, and they are a leading cheer leader of the fourth.

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                            Did Hitler ever explain what the first and second reiches were? I’m guessing some kind of anthropological pseudoscience involving ice men, but maybe someone can provide a TLDR.

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                              Did Hitler ever explain what the first and second reiches were? I’m guessing some kind of anthropological pseudoscience involving ice men, but maybe someone can provide a TLDR.

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                              First: Holy Roman Empire 962 to 1806
                              Second: German Kaiserreich 1871 to 1918

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                              • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

                                Ah okay, I thought we were talking about actual social democrats, not LARPers.

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                                Those are considered Leftist parties nowadays, not to be confused with Leftist parties (tankie edition).

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                                  Did Hitler ever explain what the first and second reiches were? I’m guessing some kind of anthropological pseudoscience involving ice men, but maybe someone can provide a TLDR.

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                                  If memory serves it's Holy Roman Empire, German Empire ("Kaiserreich"), Hitler

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                                    They're all state controlled. I cant tell you often enough.

                                    Capitalism is not a free system. The media only says what it is supposed to say. That has been proven countless times.

                                    The reason why some mainstream media posts "critical" articles is to make the ruse believable.

                                    Please read anti imperialist sources and be prepared to have the crudest awakening possible.

                                    What we in the west call "propaganda" by eastern states is mostly true and our understanding of "history* is mostly false. We are the baddies.

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                                    Don't cut yourself on all that edge

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                                      WSJ reported "tens of thousands" attending trumps parade which was the most honest thing I've seen from major papers. then next sentence was "hundreds of thousands" attending the no kings protests. While that is technically true, it misrepresenta the 5 million who protested across the country and felt like a concession to not make trump's birthday parade look as bad.

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                                      • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

                                        If memory serves it's Holy Roman Empire, German Empire ("Kaiserreich"), Hitler

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                                        That’s by the way why “third reich” is a really bad way to call it: Either call it “drittes Reich” (German) or “third Empire” (English), but mixing the two is just stupid.

                                        If I had to guess this half-way nonsense is probably a result of the English not wanting to be associated with it, giving they kept talking about the “British empire“…

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                                          It's really not. I just checked. At least not in the online version.

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