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Valve seems to have quietly rolled out a major upgrade to their Anti-Cheat system and it’s apparently wrecking havoc on cheat providers

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  • T [email protected]

    You cannot permaban a cheater for the saame reason you shouldn't have death penalty, people need to be able to challenge the decision which should trigger a process

    As a piece of software, I highly doubt there isn't a single bug in VAC that would cause a false-positive

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    I agree, they should instead do a 10 gazillion year temp ban. I expect people would change by that point

    /j

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      *wreaking havoc

      Though I kinda like the wrecking sentiment

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      TIL wreaking is a word. Whops

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        At this point I nearly want to "donate" to Valve...

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        Gabe needs another megayacht

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        • T [email protected]

          You cannot permaban a cheater for the saame reason you shouldn't have death penalty, people need to be able to challenge the decision which should trigger a process

          As a piece of software, I highly doubt there isn't a single bug in VAC that would cause a false-positive

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          Bro touch grass. Seriously likening a VAC ban with the death penalty?! You can just email someone if you got banned; if you wrongfully died from the death penalty you can't just phone the judge and ask him to recheck lmao

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          • M [email protected]

            It's possible that Adwaita for Steam causing VAC issues now. I suddenly started getting VAC warnings on CS2 and it didn't go until disabling Adwaita for Steam.

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            Yet another reason gnome is awful.

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            • H [email protected]

              Yet another reason gnome is awful.

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              How is this related to Gnome though? Adwaita for Steam is a third-party Steam client theme that only modifies CSS. This might be a coincidence but I don't know at this point.

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              • J [email protected]

                Bro touch grass. Seriously likening a VAC ban with the death penalty?! You can just email someone if you got banned; if you wrongfully died from the death penalty you can't just phone the judge and ask him to recheck lmao

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                Judges should be using ouija boards to communicate with people killed by death penalty. "So you were guilty, right?" To make sure everyone gets a chance to appeal the decision.

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                • U [email protected]

                  At this point I nearly want to "donate" to Valve...

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                  Ig buying a game will give Valve + the dev/publisher Money (cause Valve Takes 30%)

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                  • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                    https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                    Finally, VAC is a good anticheat, and that works without running deep into the kernel.

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                    • L [email protected]

                      Now doxx them all too. These people deserve consequences.

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                      Doxxing is too far,what is wrong with you.

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                      • mugita_sokiovt@discuss.onlineM [email protected]

                        GTA is a disgusting franchise, and the content in the games is just awful. Maybe the stories are good, but do you really need to insert heavy esex and substance use into a game like that? That's called desensitization, and I'm sensitive to quite a few things (not this fake sensitivity that's floating around... legit sensitivity).

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                        AFAIK why not add a mod that removes these things

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                        • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                          https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                          I did not expect to see CS2 news on lemmy... I'm all here for it!

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                            Gabe needs another megayacht

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                            According to quick google, he only has 4 ships in his fleet (with fifth being built right now), and 5 ships is a very small amount for any respectable admiral.

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                            • pazintach@discuss.tchncs.deP [email protected]

                              It really depends on what you think about as cheating. I mod my Bethesda games and Stardew Valley heavily to the point that mod file sizes are way past the game file sizes themselves, but some people consider that as cheating, as I'm not playing the original games, I'm not experiencing the original spirits of them. Some people heavily against this. Is altering games only consider as cheating in online games or in all games?

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                              I've never heard anyone but you call modding a Bethesda game cheating.

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                              • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                                https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                                Will this apply for TF2 also?

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                                • O [email protected]

                                  I really hope valve can get VAC into a good space so it can be an example of doing anti-cheat well without having to be a rootkit. Looks like we're heading towards that point. Hopefully this change will last

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                                  I wonder if that is actually their long-term goal. I feel like anti-cheats are like the last obstacle for Linux gaming where some highly popular games are straight-up unplayable on Linux; with how much stake Valve has in the success of Linux gaming (Steam Deck duh) maybe they want to make it so that eventually all games with anti-cheats can run on Linux

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                                  • ohshit604@sh.itjust.worksO [email protected]

                                    Rockstar botched that system, I can attest as I used numerous different mod menus on GTA V Online, most well developed menus will let you alter yours (and others) in-game reputation by spamming the commend/report functions.

                                    Spawning in UFO’s an such was the highlight of GTA V Online for me, haven’t touched the game since I moved to Linux, I hear it’s broken due to the new anti-cheat.

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                                    They made it much easier to setup private lobbies for friends and crew. Haven't played in public lobbies in years.

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      More like getting kicked out of a club, you can still go to other clubs.

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                                      And you can contest the ban and potentially get it lifted and return to the same game.

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                                      • Z [email protected]

                                        I wonder if that is actually their long-term goal. I feel like anti-cheats are like the last obstacle for Linux gaming where some highly popular games are straight-up unplayable on Linux; with how much stake Valve has in the success of Linux gaming (Steam Deck duh) maybe they want to make it so that eventually all games with anti-cheats can run on Linux

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                                        I mean, to me, this is amazingly obviously the goal.

                                        Games run better ~5% fps better now on Linux (when using a distro configured for gaming) than they do on Windows.

                                        As you say, last technical obstacle is kernel AC rootkits.

                                        Solve that, anyone still gaming on Windows is a MSFT fanboy, afraid of change, whatever.

                                        But they have very little actual solid reason to remain on Windows.

                                        Start getting people outta Windows for home PCs, it becomes basically just a shitty corpo OS.

                                        Rather, not OS... but ecosystem.

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                                        • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                                          https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                                          userbase is

                                          blech

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