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Valve seems to have quietly rolled out a major upgrade to their Anti-Cheat system and it’s apparently wrecking havoc on cheat providers

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  • M [email protected]

    Yeah. Go buy hollow Knight, or schedule 1, or anything from an indie studio. Support both good devs and studios, and valve. And you even get a fun game to go with your support. Honestly, everyone wins.

    .... Does anyone still wonder why I boycotted all other gaming platforms other than steam?

    You think you're going to get anti-cheat this good from the likes of epic? Ha.

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    … Does anyone still wonder why I boycotted all other gaming platforms other than steam?

    what about GOG?

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    • mugita_sokiovt@discuss.onlineM [email protected]

      GTA is a disgusting franchise, and the content in the games is just awful. Maybe the stories are good, but do you really need to insert heavy esex and substance use into a game like that? That's called desensitization, and I'm sensitive to quite a few things (not this fake sensitivity that's floating around... legit sensitivity).

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      So that's why you don't play GTA. I don't agree, but you do you.

      To get back on topic, why don't you play older games as you said. That's specifically what the other user asked.

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      • M [email protected]

        .... Because when it comes to billionaires, gaben is the least of our concern?

        Don't get me wrong, billionaires are always bad, but not all billionaires are hated.

        You won't see Bezos doing anything that helps people, not unless it will line his pockets. Valve doesn't charge us for using vac, they're unlikely to sell a lot of new copies of CS2 by making it harder to cheat in the game. They have nearly zero financial reasons to bother with any of this. They did it anyways.

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        Theyre more likely to keep the skin economy alive by making people enjoy the game. It's not like they have no incentive.

        But yea I very much agree gabe is not the problem. If every billionaire acted like gabe the world would probably be a whole lot better, even if they'd still waste a lot of ressources. Because at least he hasn't sold his basic human decency for more money, he just spends his insane amounts of money on excessive luxury. And valve actually takes risks on new products, and is content with their store shitting money instead of trying to make it shit money faster like every publically traded company.

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          Because they were 11. Lol.

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          Yeah exactly, at that age knowing how to download cheats and stuff actually made you feel sorta cool, not everyone could figure it out (and I know most kids wanted to).

          Then realising it's more fun without the cheats, just getting good at the game, I'd even dare call it a story of personal development.

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          • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

            https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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            I just wish the anti cheat on Warzone was just as good...

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            • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS [email protected]

              I mean, to me, this is amazingly obviously the goal.

              Games run better ~5% fps better now on Linux (when using a distro configured for gaming) than they do on Windows.

              As you say, last technical obstacle is kernel AC rootkits.

              Solve that, anyone still gaming on Windows is a MSFT fanboy, afraid of change, whatever.

              But they have very little actual solid reason to remain on Windows.

              Start getting people outta Windows for home PCs, it becomes basically just a shitty corpo OS.

              Rather, not OS... but ecosystem.

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              I'd actually imagine for non-Microsoft properties, they would have all the more reason to run away from Windows to linux as soon as the anticheat issue is resolved.

              I'd imagine they would come to the same conclusion that Gaben had with Win8: Relying on Microsoft "never restricting" the installation of software outside of the windows/Xbox store in the future is a huge gamble. Better to avoid the risk entirely.

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              • P [email protected]

                Can I write them off on my taxes if I never play them?

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                Become a game reviewer and write them off as a business expense

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                • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                  Counter Strike 2 has a massive problem with cheaters because Valve refuse to make VAC operate at the kernel level.

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                    Not a bad analogy, but there is a major problem with pre-trial detention being abused in the US, leaving people in jail for years at a time without having a trial. So maybe not the best thing to compare it to.

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                    No, absolutely the best comparison because the same thing happens with bans and bad moderators who ignore requests and refuse to explain a ban.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      … Does anyone still wonder why I boycotted all other gaming platforms other than steam?

                      what about GOG?

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                      GOG is awesome but limited - I can't think of any modern multiplayer game sold on GOG. Lot of great singleplayer ones though.

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                        I've seen shockingly few TF2 cheaters. Some people are just cracked as hell at that game

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                        It's been 18 years after all...

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                          Counter Strike 2 has a massive problem with cheaters because Valve refuse to make VAC operate at the kernel level.

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                          You want Americans at your kernel? I don't.

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                          • mr_madafaka@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                            https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1ng6opf/1309_major_vac_live_updates_leaving_cheaters/

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                            Wonder if they are setting up a DeadLock reveal soon and wanted to make sure no one can cheat on it

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                            • T [email protected]

                              It's been 18 years after all...

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                              Me when I hit the noscope 720 bhop noclip accelerated wombo rocket jump market landscaper triple crit combo

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                              • M [email protected]

                                I was blissfully unaware, probably because I'm not cheating scum.

                                Couldn't have happened to a better community of people.

                                Fuck cheaters.

                                IMO, cheating is just taking away all the fun of the game. The cheater didn't have to get gud to be able to win, and the victim is denied any recourse or any fun in playing the game. Bluntly, I have absolutely no sympathy at all for these kinds of people. If you suck at the game and need to use cheats to win, maybe don't fucking play it competitively?

                                There's a reason I've kept my counterstrike antics to private games among friends and local matches against bots. I have no interest in larder boards. I just want to have fun. Dying over and over before you can even do any damage, isn't fun.

                                If you're a cheater, get wrecked.

                                Bravo valve. Bravo.

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                                That's what I don't get cheating is rampant in online games but why? What fun is it to cheat I would think it takes the fin out of the game.

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  I used to cheat in GunZ online, but to be fair, I was like 11, the game wasn't competitive, and leveling up for cooler gear and to unlock new maps was HARD work.

                                  Eventually I'd git semi gud and stopped bothering with the cheats. But it was fun as hell flying through the map with no clip, as a ball of fire that killed everything except other cheaters with godmode lmao

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                                  How is there fun.

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                                  • Y [email protected]

                                    From what you're saying, it sounds like you have to be in a public lobby first, then hop into private for them to get your id. Can they get your id without ever being in the lobby or any contact at all? Currently you can just go into single player and start a private lobby. Idk how the enhanced edition does, I'm assuming it's the same. I haven't played in a couple years, so getting into a private lobby might have changed.

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                                    it sounds like you have to be in a public lobby first, then hop into private for them to get your id. Can they get your id without ever being in the lobby or any contact at all?

                                    This is not true, if you knew a persons social-club username you could search for the ID associated with it. I can’t find many tools online except for this one no idea of this works or not, I’m sure there are guides to obtain R*ID’s elsewhere.

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                                    • kneetitts@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                                      Finally, VAC is a good anticheat, and that works without running deep into the kernel

                                      So this will solve the linux client not working because of crappy kernel level anti-cheat software?

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                                      Not all games employ VAC, and it's likely that a game that would employ it in the future would need to fine tune it for the game in question. (VACnet is reliant on curated data from game servers)

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        I always thought there should be an "unlimited class" in the olympics where you can take anything you want. I want to see wildly drugged up athletes competing with each other.

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                                        I always thought professional sports games don't have enough good ol' gladiatorial bloodshed. If youre getting paid tens of millions per year for sports you damn well better be doing more than moving an object around.

                                        Look, all im saying is any sports game can be made more watchable by giving players a side-armed melee wepon and allowed one swing per play iteration with no redcards. Put back in some selective pressure to turn those middle aged pudgy players and coaches into real athletes and tacticians.

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                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Games

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                                          According to D'Souza, he created the Games because he believes that athletes are entitled to do what they wish with their own bodies

                                          If that's been agreed upon as the ruleset for their competitions, I agree

                                          and that the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is corrupt and not paying them enough.

                                          Also agree, it's the individual countries that usually pay their athletes to athlete and uh... Yeah, they get sponsors for a reason, don't they. I know a few people who've competed at several olympic games and just being top 10 or something in the world in your sport doesn't exactly get you swimming in money.

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