Valve seems to have quietly rolled out a major upgrade to their Anti-Cheat system and it’s apparently wrecking havoc on cheat providers
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"And now the athletes are at the starting line for the hundred meter ketamine stagger. . . They're waiting for the starters' gun. . . Some of them have got confused and wandered off. . ."
"Oh, it looks Swerving Dan had a heart attack when the starting pistol went off!
That's going to hurt his chances, Jim."
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Glad about the VAC update, but did you have to post a screenshot from reddit and the link to the reddit post?
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I'm not saying they definitely weren't cheating, but I have definitely hit some shots in my time that seemed impossible. If you fire enough rockets at corners that you think someone might come around, or in games with snipers that penetrate cover, take blind guesses through walls, you're going to get lucky eventually.
Edit to add: just saying, the line is blurry indeed. But I think if I got kicked over it, I'd be a good sport about it! "Got kicked for cheating because I was too l33t" would be such a good story. I'm sure some people have had it happen.
A buddy of mine had many bans on CS: Source servers for cheating. He's computer illiterate and gamed on an IBM T42 at 640x480, but paired with headphones he was a monster. I know for sure he didn't cheat, he was my roommate and I seen bans happen with my own eyes.
Dude couldn't look at a titty online without windows needing a reinstall, there's no way he could download a cheat.
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Now doxx them all too. These people deserve consequences.
Doxxing them implies releasing their personal information, and if you think cheating in a video game is that serious there's something very wrong with you.
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I'd love to play matches with aimbots.
I'm not good at games. Don't care enough to git gud. Certainly wouldn't ruin anyone's experience by cheating. But it'd be fun to see what the game is like with everyone having perfect aim.
Cheaters aren't only aimbots. In fact, most of the time they're not even using aimbot because that's one of the easiest one to tell that someone is cheating. Most of the time they can just see everyone through walls. But if it's cheater vs cheater and they don't care about being caught then it's not fun or interesting because you just use aim + speed + noclip (I assume that's possible) and just kill everyone the second the round starts.
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I think that the (only) relevant factor is whether everyone else knows and wants it. Suppose your mod affected only yourself (so other players wouldn't know about it) and you played in a way that was mostly reasonable, but providing a little bit more covering fire than should be possible. Your teammates might still have fun while they're playing, though only if you don't overdo it; but even then, they probably wouldn't be too happy to discover your cheating once they'd already finished the map. If you give everyone infinite ammo, and tell them about it then that's fine, but because they know about it, not because they benefit from it.
For that matter, cheating in a competitive server set up for that purpose can be fun (though it can also be wildly unbalanced, especially if the game is asymmetrical)
Yeah, if everyone is in on it then it's not cheating, it's "house rules" as they say for board games
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numbers please
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You cannot permaban a cheater for the saame reason you shouldn't have death penalty, people need to be able to challenge the decision which should trigger a process
As a piece of software, I highly doubt there isn't a single bug in VAC that would cause a false-positive
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah, I have a very thoroughly ingrained suspicion of people treating anticheat with too much confidence stemming back to when I got banned many years ago from an online game for supposedly running a script.
I had so much lag on my dialup connection, that a backlog of all my commands hit their server at the same time, so from their perspective it looked like I'd entered over a dozen commands in under a second. Insta ban, no appeal, essentially lost access to a significant percentage of my online friends that it hadn't occurred to me to get email addresses for.
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At this point I nearly want to "donate" to Valve...
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That would be absurd for me to suggest. I was not claiming that all “hacking” no matter how you define the word, as bad.
I was just stating the source of the problem here. Everyone is really sensitive about the fact.
Re-read your original comment, m8. If you really didn’t want to condemn all hacking, then you did a good job stating the exact opposite.
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This is certainly one of the comparisons of all time
Consequence of sentencing the wrong person to death: You killed an innocent life in an irreversible action.
Consequence of permabanning a player from an online game: The player can no longer play the game. The action is also reversible since "permaban" just means to say "we're never unbanning you unless something extraordinary were to happen".
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shadowbanning to cheater-only servers sounds like nice middle ground to me
Fall Guy did that. The consequence was a lot of videos with everyone cheating.
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You cannot permaban a cheater for the saame reason you shouldn't have death penalty, people need to be able to challenge the decision which should trigger a process
As a piece of software, I highly doubt there isn't a single bug in VAC that would cause a false-positive
If, to you, not being able to play one game in the sea of many many many games is akin to death, maybe you need to see someone about addiction.
If you cheat in a game, you've burned your bridge. It's like taking a piss in the cereal isle of Kmart, you probably won't be welcome in that Kmart any more. Or hey, maybe you'll end up like an acquaintance I knew who was banned from a Kmart, maybe you'll be hired on as staff without them checking the binder of banned people. I think I've lost the plot of this analogy.
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Doxxing them implies releasing their personal information, and if you think cheating in a video game is that serious there's something very wrong with you.
I'd be fine with them getting an icon on the stream profile
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The problem is people existing.
Ugh. People. What a bunch of bastards
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I did finally win a match in CS2 after a long loss streak.. it was definitely because everyone else was always cheating... not because I'm shit...
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You cannot permaban a cheater for the saame reason you shouldn't have death penalty, people need to be able to challenge the decision which should trigger a process
As a piece of software, I highly doubt there isn't a single bug in VAC that would cause a false-positive
In the worst case scenario offender can just create another Steam account, so permaban is fine.
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Valve demonstrating that anticheat doesn't require a rootkit.
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They will have working cheats by now. It really needs to be consistent effort to keep cheaters away.
I think this is great they're doing stuff now though, keep it up!
VACnet is built to be consistent
They have been training for two years
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I did finally win a match in CS2 after a long loss streak.. it was definitely because everyone else was always cheating... not because I'm shit...
Still in like 5k cause I'm shite
