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Why was there a pro-Hitler, Holocaust-denying ad on X?

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    No, I definitely cannot read. Can write, but can't really read, sorry. My lack of mental acuity doesn't help. Libel and slander? Oh my, I wonder what those words mean. Are they, perhaps, social constructs that exist to prevent the consequences of harmful communication? Like... Regulation of speech?? Like... laws? Wait, but isn't speech supposed to be free??? Why are they taking away our rights like this???

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    There are multiple differences with libel & slander, but again since you admit you have a lack of mental acuity, I'm not sure it would help explain them to you. By all means, since those are civil matters though sue the people that offend you in court & send me the docker numbers.

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      It's linked.

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      The article's link goes to X (twitter) though, not to imgur.

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      • M [email protected]

        Musk wasnt even elected

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        Out of curiosity, are any other state secretaries elected? (Canadian here, don't know US system well.)

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          There are multiple differences with libel & slander, but again since you admit you have a lack of mental acuity, I'm not sure it would help explain them to you. By all means, since those are civil matters though sue the people that offend you in court & send me the docker numbers.

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          Sorry dude. I know you really really want to be taken seriously, but it's just not gonna happen. Defamation laws have been around for millennia (50 years of case law? Lol) and they're just one tiny example of regulation of speech. If you don't believe political propaganda on social media should be regulated exactly the same way, you probably lack the mental acuity to understand the concepts of cause and effect. Or you're just arguing in bad faith as well. We could go on for hours about the excesses of extra-woke cancel culture and how they are detrimental to discourse, but since you decided to open with "Nazi propaganda is free speech" I'm pretty sure it would be a huge waste of time.

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            You know why.

            Also, get off Twitler

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              Why is there steak at the steakhouse??

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                Sorry dude. I know you really really want to be taken seriously, but it's just not gonna happen. Defamation laws have been around for millennia (50 years of case law? Lol) and they're just one tiny example of regulation of speech. If you don't believe political propaganda on social media should be regulated exactly the same way, you probably lack the mental acuity to understand the concepts of cause and effect. Or you're just arguing in bad faith as well. We could go on for hours about the excesses of extra-woke cancel culture and how they are detrimental to discourse, but since you decided to open with "Nazi propaganda is free speech" I'm pretty sure it would be a huge waste of time.

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                Defamation laws are a civil matter. You have to sue someone & prove in court that you were defamed. There are also specific laws for public figures & case law for things said on Twitter/X. Furthermore, what is propaganda to you might be what some of them legitimately believe. You can't sue people for believing in a different ideology. For example, you can't sue someone for liking chocolate ice cream because you like vanilla, nor can you sue people because they believe that God doesn't exist. I'd love to see you take it to court though & send me the docker number once you do, so I can be amused.

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                  Just asking questions makes it harder to sue under English libel law.

                  Look at the difference.

                  Elon musk is a Nazi.

                  A clear factual statement leaves room for disagreement. Maybe he's just an edgelord fascist radicalized by 4chan but doesn't have enough fashion sense to be a Nazi.

                  Elon musk is a Nazi?

                  Perfectly safe.

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                  Interesting. I hadn't considered that possibility.

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                    Haha, last time, when Facebook was "fact checking" and "fighting disinformation" the Zucc was a hero, now he suddenly supports nazis.

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                    I mean... have you not seen the photo ops and donations from him explicitly supporting nazis? 🤷‍♂️ not sure what to tell you, bud, but you can believe your eyes

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                      I mean... have you not seen the photo ops and donations from him explicitly supporting nazis? 🤷‍♂️ not sure what to tell you, bud, but you can believe your eyes

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                      No, I haven't seen it. I'd be glad if you would kindly provide me with some evidence, especially if you know the definition of "nazism"

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