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Why was there a pro-Hitler, Holocaust-denying ad on X?

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    There are limits to free speech just like there are limits to other freedoms. For example: "The right to swing my fist ends where the other man’s nose begins." IOW where harm is done. So the question becomes do messages like this cause harm? IANAL, but I believe that it would qualify as hate speech, which is widely considered to cause harm.

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    It's also important to distinguish freedom of speech (protected by the first amendment) from free speech (a made up concept meant to bastardize on the former and to allow social media post whatever they want anonymously, like this ad).

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      Stop doing it. NEXT!

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      Holy shit. Thank you so much!

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        Holy shit. Thank you so much!

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        But you didn't stop doing it

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          I don't think the question is if there was one.

          The question is, would anyone be surprised if there was?

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            Because Elon is a Nazi.

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              That sounds nice. I wish it was like that here.

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              A law to prevent spreading false history may sound good but I fear it's not a good solution. In bad hands the law can instead can attack history to promote a false one. If an inconvenient truth happens to looks like the dribble that comes out of a Holocaust denier when took at face value then good hands may punish an otherwise good person, thus promoting a different pseudo history.

              I'm convinced I cannot trust anyone to judge - for me - what I should be able to read/hear. There must be better ways to defeat Nazism ideology.

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                I'm genuinely shocked it was taken down at this stage in our self-destruction

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                  Because Elmo musk out it there, I presume? He is, after all, a neo nazi and he loves pointing at nazi stuff sooooo...

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                    Elon does not care.

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                    Actually, he does care and enjoy nazis

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                      It says it's an ad in the post at the top right

                      https://x.com/goldberg_ebooks/status/1889852084926947389

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                      Oh yeah, I too hate Hitler only because of Schindlers list. I grew up in Europe in the 80s and there is absolutely no other reason than that movie why we should hate him, really! The guy could do no wrong, he even loved dogs! Hell, he even painted! Bos Ross paints too, why would you hate Bob Ross? Don't hate Hitler, he's like Bob Ross!

                      I feel like I need to shower and apologize to Bob after writing this.

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                        You know why.

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                          Because we all saw this coming after everybody voted for Trump last November. If you didn’t see it coming then you were just part of their plan.

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                            Cuz its X, that's why. I really don't know why we tolerate this shit, or why people still use that site.

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                            Yep. I'm so lost why anyone who remotely dislikes trump and musk still use it. Switch to bluesky or something from the fediverse...but gtfo xitter..

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                              How is that a serious question? Are they trying to be deliberately obtuse, or are they just fucking stupid?

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                                Because Elon is a Nazi.

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                                The "master" race

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                                  Because look who's running it, that's why.

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                                    How is that a serious question? Are they trying to be deliberately obtuse, or are they just fucking stupid?

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                                    Just asking questions makes it harder to sue under English libel law.

                                    Look at the difference.

                                    Elon musk is a Nazi.

                                    A clear factual statement leaves room for disagreement. Maybe he's just an edgelord fascist radicalized by 4chan but doesn't have enough fashion sense to be a Nazi.

                                    Elon musk is a Nazi?

                                    Perfectly safe.

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                                      It's the new Apple ad campaign

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                                        Well, duh, where else would a pro-Hitler, Holocaust-denying ad be?

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                                        • timewarp@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                          Sounds like free speech here in the United States. I understand Musk might now be consistent but I do welcome free speech on social media. If you don't like it then block it & move on. It's almost like Democrats search for things to get upset about. Really annoying cause free speech used to be something Democrats cared about & now they are pro-censorship & fascist just like Republicans. They thirst for violence against people that say something that offends them.

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                                          I suggest you call the nearest mall and tell them you placed a bomb in there. It's just free speech, it's not like you actually put a bomb there, you're just saying it, so it's fine. If they don't like it they just can hang up and move on. I think it will be a totally fun and safe experience for you to try and that there will be absolutely no consequences for anyone involved, because that's how free speech works.

                                          Or maybe, I don't know, you could pick someone you don't like and start telling people that they're a pedophile! It doesn't even have to be true, it's just free speech. You are free to say whatever you want! And if someone wanted to do the same thing to you, it should absolutely be their right to do so! Free speech for everyone! It's literally free!

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