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Corporations are saving the planet!

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    I like the convenience of not losing the cap

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    • djdarren@sopuli.xyzD [email protected]

      I end up dribbling because the lid gets in my way, but it's fine because I'm helping to offset the pollution caused by a billionaire's private jet.

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      If you keep pushing it further open it has a detent that will hold it open far enough that even my big nose won't touch it... It's an amazing design, better than a screw cap in every way. Well, at least the properly designed ones.

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        I think the cap thing is more about littering because in those countries people litter only the cap for some reason?

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        The bottle has a deposit on it, the cap doesn't

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          Not sure if this applied universally, but I remember for years and years the common knowledge was that plastic caps are unrecyclable for some reason, and there used to be separate bins to toss them at recycling centers. That's no longer the case, so keeping the cap connected to the bottle is one way to demonstrate that they should be recycled together.

          (By "recycled" I mean most likely shipped to Southeast Asia to then most likely just find their way into the ocean)

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          (By "recycled" I mean most likely shipped to Southeast Asia to then most likely just find their way into the ocean)

          You would be wrong; PET bottles are mostly actually recycled, because it recycles very well (also, why would places go to the effort of setting up a deposit/return scheme for something they aren't actually recycling? Just throw it in the blue bag with all the other plastic that doesn't actually get recycled)

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          • bruncvik@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

            An EU regulation that was heavily lobbied for by Coca Cola.

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            Really? I never heard that before. What would they care about how their caps are? I can't see it having any impact on them at all. A lot of people got pissed about it when Coca Cola was one of the first to change the caps in line with the regulation, so if anything it hurt Coca Cola.

            Also even though large corporations are almost always totally evil, it's not impossible for them to do something good as well. Probably not for the right reasons, but still, one thing doesn't exclude the other.

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              If you keep pushing it further open it has a detent that will hold it open far enough that even my big nose won't touch it... It's an amazing design, better than a screw cap in every way. Well, at least the properly designed ones.

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              Sometimes they're harder to close

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                The bottle has a deposit on it, the cap doesn't

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                Not true for most EU countries.

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                  I like the convenience of not losing the cap

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                  Easier to walk around with an open bottle too since you don't have to hold the cap or put it into your pocket

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                  • moseschrute@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

                    it said good, not safe. It will still kill you but in a good way

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                    Killing me softly with this cap.

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                      Attached cap prevents it from becoming a macroplastic

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                        All EU representants right now 😱😱😱

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                          Not true for most EU countries.

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                          I'm not sure then. Maybe because people litter the cap right when they open it, but end up carrying the partially full drink with them?

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                            Really? I never heard that before. What would they care about how their caps are? I can't see it having any impact on them at all. A lot of people got pissed about it when Coca Cola was one of the first to change the caps in line with the regulation, so if anything it hurt Coca Cola.

                            Also even though large corporations are almost always totally evil, it's not impossible for them to do something good as well. Probably not for the right reasons, but still, one thing doesn't exclude the other.

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                            No idea why they'd want those tethered caps. My speculation (and that's 100% unfounded, so take it as you will) is that they are lobbying for something simple and cheap (tethered caps, plastic straws, etc), to blind people from the real environmental issues that are far more costly to tackle. Kind of like the plastic recycle logo, which is a total scam, but makes people feel good enough to not further question the big corps' recycling practices.

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                              Really? I never heard that before. What would they care about how their caps are? I can't see it having any impact on them at all. A lot of people got pissed about it when Coca Cola was one of the first to change the caps in line with the regulation, so if anything it hurt Coca Cola.

                              Also even though large corporations are almost always totally evil, it's not impossible for them to do something good as well. Probably not for the right reasons, but still, one thing doesn't exclude the other.

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                              It perpetuates the myth of recycling and puts the onus on the consumer and state to recycle instead of the corporations to stop using containers that pollute the environment, will be in the environment for decades without breaking down, and is likely causing yet unknown harm in our bodies since plastic is inside all of us now.

                              The first of the "3 R's" is reduce but instead of that being the focus because it hurts their bottom line, they prop up recycling and sell the lie that we can keep living as is if we just recycle more and get better at recycling.

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                                Really? I never heard that before. What would they care about how their caps are? I can't see it having any impact on them at all. A lot of people got pissed about it when Coca Cola was one of the first to change the caps in line with the regulation, so if anything it hurt Coca Cola.

                                Also even though large corporations are almost always totally evil, it's not impossible for them to do something good as well. Probably not for the right reasons, but still, one thing doesn't exclude the other.

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                                My guess - somebody at coca-cola figured out the cap attachment system and they patented it, but had no real plan. Then someone had the idea to lobby the EU to make it a requirement. They can sell it because it will reduce litter to some extent and improve the beverage industry's reputation. But more importantly, coca-cola not already has their manufacturing systems in place to produce these bottle caps. Other bottle manufacturers must now play catch up, constraining the supply of bottles available for EU beverage sales. Now their competitors are scrambling to update their own bottles, which will increase their costs and might delay shipments, lending coca-cola market share. And smaller competitors who outsource their bottling might be forced out of the market entirely if the company they contract with to manufacture their bottles can't or won't comply with this regulation.

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                                  Conspiracy theory of mine - I’m European, so not sure if valid for the other side of the pond, but there was a massive campaign here to recycle the bottle caps by donating them for the creation of incubators for premature births. The local authorities placed massive donation boxes shaped like a heart and they were getting filled constantly.

                                  Here’s the theory: When the campaign started getting up to speed, they started attaching the bottle caps to the bottle, because, I strongly believe, that out there, there is an absolute evil cunt who only feels something when a baby dies, so he wants fewer donated caps, because deep inside he knows people don’t care enough to snap the cap off.

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                                  • riddersport@feddit.orgR [email protected]

                                    Not true for most EU countries.

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                                    true here in germany

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                                      An EU regulation that was heavily lobbied for by Coca Cola.

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                                      The only thing I can find in this direction is a letter from beverage companies (including coca cola) opposing these measures. But that's based on a very shallow google search, so take it with a grain of salt. Where can I find info about what coca cola lobbied for or against?

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                                        Conspiracy theory of mine - I’m European, so not sure if valid for the other side of the pond, but there was a massive campaign here to recycle the bottle caps by donating them for the creation of incubators for premature births. The local authorities placed massive donation boxes shaped like a heart and they were getting filled constantly.

                                        Here’s the theory: When the campaign started getting up to speed, they started attaching the bottle caps to the bottle, because, I strongly believe, that out there, there is an absolute evil cunt who only feels something when a baby dies, so he wants fewer donated caps, because deep inside he knows people don’t care enough to snap the cap off.

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                                        I've seen one if these, so that is what they are for!

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                                        • riddersport@feddit.orgR [email protected]

                                          Not true for most EU countries.

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                                          True for all Euro places that I have been to that had deposits

                                          Edit: apparently not, i take everything back

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