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If you think electric bikes are bad, there’s a much bigger menace hitting our roads

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  • fartswithanaccent@fedia.ioF [email protected]

    Electric bikes are a menace. They go almost as fast as a car (if the car is parking), they’re whisper...

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    I have bad knees and no drivers license in the United States. My electric bike is a life saver.

    Edit: Just read the whole "article". I don't disagree but sarcasm isn't a good tone for journalism.

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    • fartswithanaccent@fedia.ioF [email protected]

      Electric bikes are a menace. They go almost as fast as a car (if the car is parking), they’re whisper...

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      Literally nobody will read (or even glance at) the article and instead respond to the headline based on vibes alone. As usual. Ah, social media... Electric bikes were definitely a better invention.

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      • fartswithanaccent@fedia.ioF [email protected]

        Electric bikes are a menace. They go almost as fast as a car (if the car is parking), they’re whisper...

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        Here’s an idea: If we want safer streets, how about we start by addressing the machines that weigh two and a half tons and can hit 100 mph, not the ones that top out at 20 or 28 and are powered by a one-horsepower motor the size of an orange.

        This made me chuckle on the train. Hilarious, but true. I like the orange comparison.

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        • fartswithanaccent@fedia.ioF [email protected]

          Electric bikes are a menace. They go almost as fast as a car (if the car is parking), they’re whisper...

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          Let’s take New York City, for example. It’s got more e-bike usage than anywhere else in the US, and there are still only an average of two pedestrians per year killed by an e-bike accident. That number for cars? Around 100 per year in NYC. It’s not complicated math – cars are 50x more lethal in the city.

          I have no doubt that ebikes are less dangerous, but this data doesn't do much to prove that point.

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          • ibelieveinthehousehippo@lemmy.caI [email protected]

            Let’s take New York City, for example. It’s got more e-bike usage than anywhere else in the US, and there are still only an average of two pedestrians per year killed by an e-bike accident. That number for cars? Around 100 per year in NYC. It’s not complicated math – cars are 50x more lethal in the city.

            I have no doubt that ebikes are less dangerous, but this data doesn't do much to prove that point.

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            You have to do deaths per vehicle on the road. Raw data is useless for making any sort of comparison.

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              Electric bikes are a menace. They go almost as fast as a car (if the car is parking), they’re whisper...

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              "there are still only an average of two pedestrians per year killed by an e-bike accident. That number for cars? Around 100 per year in NYC. It’s not complicated math – cars are 50x more lethal in the city.Around 100 per year in NYC."

              Since the articles author chose to be so pedantic about it: There are about 65,000 e-bikes in NYC, and about 2,000,000 cars. The math is simple. There's way more car deaths because there's way more cars. If you adjust the numbers make cars and ebikes equal and assume the too small value of 2 ebikes deaths to be a statistical average, it would amount to 2 ebike deaths for every 3.3 car deaths.

              So yes, ebikes are definitely less deadly, but hardly less deadly than the screwball claim of 50x less.

              If a guy riding a unicycle backwards down a NYC street with a fanny pack full of nitroglycerin fell down and blew up, I guess I can tell everyone it's only half as deadly to ride a unicycle backwards while carrying nitro, since there was only a single fatality while doing it.

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                You have to do deaths per vehicle on the road. Raw data is useless for making any sort of comparison.

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                Probably deaths per distance traveled rather than vehicle count.

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                  Probably deaths per distance traveled rather than vehicle count.

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                  Yeah, I think both metrics are valuable. Also the ratio of incidents where pedestrians did/didn't die might be useful.

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                    Electric bikes are a menace. They go almost as fast as a car (if the car is parking), they’re whisper...

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                    Quantum bikes?

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                      Probably deaths per distance traveled rather than vehicle count.

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                      Death per distance traveled shouldn't be use on thing that usually travel short distance though, because pedestrian death is the highest if measured this way, making the impression that walking is dangerous.

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