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The least problematic early black metal band

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    no I don't know anything about black metal, but if it's common for bands to be racist, you should research a band to make sure you don't support the wrong kind

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    I read their original comment as them being exhausted by it. Being exhausted by something implies you're doing it, otherwise why would you be exhausted?

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      I‘m really drunk so are you saying black metal people are expected to be Nazis? That honestly sucks ass

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        I‘m really drunk so are you saying black metal people are expected to be Nazis? That honestly sucks ass

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        Nah, the scene does have a nazi problem tho

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        • herohelck@lemmy.dbzer0.comH [email protected]

          It really do suck that Jon Nödtveidt had to be so fucking good AND a completely unhinged lunatic killer.

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          At least he's dead so I feel less bad listening to Storm of the Light's Bane

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            I‘m really drunk so are you saying black metal people are expected to be Nazis? That honestly sucks ass

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            There is definitely plenty of non-Nazi black metal. It's just that there's also a lot of actual Nazi BM, including some of the foundational figures of the genre. The general themes of the genre being very misanthropic and usually interested in the various kinds of paganism that Nazis cribbed a bunch of their symbolism from can also make it difficult to spot the Nazis at a glance if they're not being overt about it

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              At least he's dead so I feel less bad listening to Storm of the Light's Bane

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              You're Damn Right.

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              • leraje@piefed.blahaj.zoneL [email protected]

                Luke's List (Google spreadsheet)

                Antifascist Black Metal Network (not just Black metal)

                Satan Not Hatin'

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                I would love to see similar lists of other genres.

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                  I would love to see similar lists of other genres.

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                  ABMN is not just Black Metal, their YT channel (findable on Invidious too) is divided in to playlists by subgenre.

                  SNH also a huge mix of sub-genres and non-metal genres such as EDM, Noise, punk etc.

                  In terms of non-metal, there are similar projects for neofolk (which also has a tendency to attract the fash), the LeftFolk collective features some great music. The Riihimaki Collective feature hardcore, and DIY Conspiracy are a punk collective.

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                  • leraje@piefed.blahaj.zoneL [email protected]

                    ABMN is not just Black Metal, their YT channel (findable on Invidious too) is divided in to playlists by subgenre.

                    SNH also a huge mix of sub-genres and non-metal genres such as EDM, Noise, punk etc.

                    In terms of non-metal, there are similar projects for neofolk (which also has a tendency to attract the fash), the LeftFolk collective features some great music. The Riihimaki Collective feature hardcore, and DIY Conspiracy are a punk collective.

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                    Thank for sharing! Didn't realize there was playlists for splitting genres! I lean toward symphonic and nu metal and noticed there are few that match that genre!

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                      I'm cool with blanket misanthropy but take issue when they get specific...I fucking love Black Metal though so it's tough.

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                      • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                        just listen to hipster NY bands like Krallice and Imperial Triumphant.

                        I say this as an obvious Colin Marston fan.

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                        Marston fan

                        Doesn't mention Dysrythmia

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                          Black metal is, in my opinion, the most poetic and beautiful subgenre in metal. I stayed away from this subgenre for almost two decades because I was scared of all the bad press, but when I finally decided to listen to some bands and artists, I fell in love instantly.

                          The best part of black metal, for me, is how the vast majority of the songs I have listened to are basically lyrical simping for mother nature. I fuck with it.

                          Also have a soft spot for DSBM and how it both puts a spotlight on and gives an outlet for deeply depressed and suicidal people. Almost therapeutic for some of them. That's so beautiful.

                          As for all the controversial stuff, I find it almost comical that most bands or artists I discover and enjoy has some weird controversy surrounding them if I start looking into it. At this point I just have to assume that it's a genre that attracts unstable people who decide to make music to have an outlet for their degenerate tendencies and as long as their degeneracy stays in their heads and isn't enacted onto other people, I don't really give a fuck what their beliefs are. Just keep it out of the music and I'm good. Simp for nature or make songs about how the grey concrete outside your window makes you want to slit your wrists. My ears will be listening.

                          I remember being kind of shocked that the original Mayhem related crime cases were all committed by teenagers. When I was a teen myself, I guess I thought it was like grown ups in gangs ala Hells Angel's, running around being nazis and burning churches and killing people. But it was really just a bunch of bored loser kids with mental problems.

                          Still, I dig the music. They did something different both in terms of sound and presentation and I can't hate them for inventing a new artform within a genre of music that is basically modern day classical music.

                          Btw, Blackbraid is, as far as I know pretty inoffensive, but then again, I haven't really kept up on the gossip surrounding him. He makes songs about simping for nature. 🤌

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                          Agalloch

                          Botanist

                          Enisum

                          Gallowbraid (Also shoutout Caladan Brood)

                          Panopticon

                          Thrawsunblat

                          Wandering Oak

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                            Agalloch

                            Botanist

                            Enisum

                            Gallowbraid (Also shoutout Caladan Brood)

                            Panopticon

                            Thrawsunblat

                            Wandering Oak

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                            Absolutely adore Agalloch. We listened to one of their albums a lot in the office for awhile. In the Shadow of Our Pale Companion is one of my favourite songs ever. Everytime I want to give examples of amazing lyrics within black metal, I turn to this song.

                            Not sure I have heard of the others you listed (except for Enisum. It does ring a bell), but I'll look them up! Thank you. I'm assuming they all belong in the simping for nature category xD

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                              Absolutely adore Agalloch. We listened to one of their albums a lot in the office for awhile. In the Shadow of Our Pale Companion is one of my favourite songs ever. Everytime I want to give examples of amazing lyrics within black metal, I turn to this song.

                              Not sure I have heard of the others you listed (except for Enisum. It does ring a bell), but I'll look them up! Thank you. I'm assuming they all belong in the simping for nature category xD

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                              You got it my dude. I've also got a separate list for space if that's your jam!

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                                Marston fan

                                Doesn't mention Dysrythmia

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                                1. My name is Skullgrid, I think behold is more obscure and less accessible than Dysrhythmia

                                2. It's implicit based on the context that I am saying that Krallice is a Hipster NY Black Metal band, and Dysrhythmia is not one (despite all the double picking on Psychic Maps)

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                                  1. My name is Skullgrid, I think behold is more obscure and less accessible than Dysrhythmia

                                  2. It's implicit based on the context that I am saying that Krallice is a Hipster NY Black Metal band, and Dysrhythmia is not one (despite all the double picking on Psychic Maps)

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                                  Hehehe I'm just picking nits and stanning for Marston as well. Remember me from our recent conversation?

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                                    'It's okay though. The guy who got murdered talked his band mate into suicide and took pictures of his body to put on an album cover so he was kind of an asshole

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                                      Hehehe I'm just picking nits and stanning for Marston as well. Remember me from our recent conversation?

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                                      Oh shit it's you! Yeah, I'm still meaning to hit you up with a few things and I owe you a reply , but life is hard. 🙃

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                                        'It's okay though. The guy who got murdered talked his band mate into suicide and took pictures of his body to put on an album cover so he was kind of an asshole

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                                        Didn't he make a cereal bowl out of a chunk of his skull? Or am I combining the real life events with something fictional that was referencing it?

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                                          Didn't he make a cereal bowl out of a chunk of his skull? Or am I combining the real life events with something fictional that was referencing it?

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                                          No, he did keep skull fragments and made necklaces out of them. You're probably thinking of Ed Gein

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