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Nintendo is restricting the Switch 2's USB-C port — most third-party docks and accessories won't work thanks to proprietary protocols

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      And this and other reasons are why I haven't bought one yet. Think I'll just keep using the steam deck and switch 1 instead.

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        And this and other reasons are why I haven't bought one yet. Think I'll just keep using the steam deck and switch 1 instead.

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        I'm taking advantage of the steam summer sale to basically re-buy most of my Switch games for PC at cheap prices just for that.

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          I'm taking advantage of the steam summer sale to basically re-buy most of my Switch games for PC at cheap prices just for that.

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          Ooh that's a good idea. I have a reason to buy more games now hehehe

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            Typical Nintendo

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              My simple workaround is not buying a Switch 2.

              Show me contempt, and I'll show you zero dollars.

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                I don’t think I’ve ever actively been put off of wanting a new console before this. Lukewarm feelings or too poor, sure.

                I love my original Switch and (most of) its first-party titles but each new article about its successor is making me want a Steam Deck instead.

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                  To be fair there were a lot of totally questionable third party docks for Switch 1 that would apparently fry that M92T36 chip and brick the whole thing, so if there's something to prevent that from happening then I suppose it's not entirely bad.

                  It'd be a lot nicer if all the power delivery stuff was in the console itself, don't get me wrong, but I'd rather have a third party dock not work than to have to hard reset my Switch every time I left it in that dock for more than a couple hours (or worse)

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                    To be fair there were a lot of totally questionable third party docks for Switch 1 that would apparently fry that M92T36 chip and brick the whole thing, so if there's something to prevent that from happening then I suppose it's not entirely bad.

                    It'd be a lot nicer if all the power delivery stuff was in the console itself, don't get me wrong, but I'd rather have a third party dock not work than to have to hard reset my Switch every time I left it in that dock for more than a couple hours (or worse)

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                    No, Switch 1 was non-compliant as well.

                    Making USB-C chargers and docks is cheap and easy, there's thousands on the market.
                    But Nintendo had to be assholes and did things their way, as usual.

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                      While I don't support them doing it, I'm a bit out of the loop on why third-party docks are even needed? What's wrong with the original dock? I'm genuinely curious, I had Switch 1 for 5+ years and it never occurred to me to even look at any third-party docks.

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                        While I don't support them doing it, I'm a bit out of the loop on why third-party docks are even needed? What's wrong with the original dock? I'm genuinely curious, I had Switch 1 for 5+ years and it never occurred to me to even look at any third-party docks.

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                        Accidents happen and if someone has to replace their dock, forcing them to overpay for a Nintendo branded one while preventing other manufacturers from producing cheaper versions or versions with more features is anti consumer and monopolistic.

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                          I do wonder why they decide to do this. Replacement Nintendo docks probably aren't a big money maker. Maybe they did HDCP (HDMI copy protection for movies and such, used for YouTube and such when they finally get it working) on dock side for Switch 2 so this is their attempt to stop people getting the video feed in between? Just speculation though, and I might be very wrong.

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                            While I don't support them doing it, I'm a bit out of the loop on why third-party docks are even needed? What's wrong with the original dock? I'm genuinely curious, I had Switch 1 for 5+ years and it never occurred to me to even look at any third-party docks.

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                            I got a second party dock for the switch one back in pandemic times because my son wanted to hang out with me while I worked. The dock I got didn't block the front so he could play it while it charged.

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                              While I don't support them doing it, I'm a bit out of the loop on why third-party docks are even needed? What's wrong with the original dock? I'm genuinely curious, I had Switch 1 for 5+ years and it never occurred to me to even look at any third-party docks.

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                              Switch 1 dock comes with the console. But what if you want to hook up 1 dock on each of your TVs throughout your house? Lets say there are 3 TVs. Well, you have 1 dock. Now you need 2 more.

                              The official dock with power supply is $90. So you now need $180 plus two more HDMI cables.

                              3rd party docks are a fraction of that. You could probably get both docks for $60? Been a while since I checked prices.

                              And used prices aren't much better for first party. But used on 3rd party goes down even more. You could probably get both tvs with used 3rd party docks for $40? As opposed to $180 for 2 new official docks.

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                                While I don't support them doing it, I'm a bit out of the loop on why third-party docks are even needed? What's wrong with the original dock? I'm genuinely curious, I had Switch 1 for 5+ years and it never occurred to me to even look at any third-party docks.

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                                The switch 2 dock is $120. Thats why 3rd party docks. Regardless if the reason a person wants to buy one, it should not be $120. Its a PCB with like 2 chips, a fan, 2 usb ports and an Ethernet port. You can buy a 16gb Pi 5 for that price.

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                                  Classic Nintendo.

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                                    The switch 2 dock is $120. Thats why 3rd party docks. Regardless if the reason a person wants to buy one, it should not be $120. Its a PCB with like 2 chips, a fan, 2 usb ports and an Ethernet port. You can buy a 16gb Pi 5 for that price.

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                                    Yeah, just checked the price myself too. $120 is just robbery. I hope 3rd party manufacturers will figure out how to make their stuff work with Switch 2.

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                                      You will buy their dock and you will love it, or else.

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                                        This shit should be illegal. Apple got smacked by the EU for this exact practice. Do we think that will applied evenly?

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                                          No, Switch 1 was non-compliant as well.

                                          Making USB-C chargers and docks is cheap and easy, there's thousands on the market.
                                          But Nintendo had to be assholes and did things their way, as usual.

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                                          Yeah, that's what I'm saying, both are non-compliant but Switch 1 had no sort of guardrail in place to prevent that chip from being fed 9 or 15 volts.

                                          Dumb design to put the thing responsible for delivering 6 volts on the dock as opposed to placing it in the console itself but at least the Switch 2 won't just fry itself like the Switch 1

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