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  • tudsamfa@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

    That is literally what I am talking about, though. "you doing more, the store doing less, prices increase anyway" is exactly the same thing as happened 100 years ago.

    Stores where customers didn't have access to the back also don't need security cameras, so even that point is 1:1 the same (although that's way later than 1925 then).

    We have lost most of the stores where a clerk will collect your items for you, they once were the only option. At this rate, we will lose most of the stores where a clerk will scan the items for you as well. Simply because 1 clerk and 20 cameras is cheaper than 15 clerks.

    I'm not saying that you have to like or hate both developments equally, I just wanted to point out that we have had and lost this exact battle before.

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    We have lost most of the stores where a clerk will collect your items for you

    Actually, pretty much the opposite, they are making a comeback in the form of curbside ordering. Walking through a grocery store or walmart nowadays there's a large number of staff picking items from the shelf.

    It's been crazy to see people going nuts about having to scan their own items at the same time the bigger pain in the ass of picking the items is now being offered at no additional charge.

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      Curbside pickup is an inconvenient option. Screens are a terrible interface for picking groceries. Maybe in the future a VR option will be as, or more, convenient

      I prefer the fastest and most convenient option. Picking out products in person is faster, and having a cashier scan the items is faster

      Seems most people like self-checkout because they have anti-social tendencies. That's perfectly valid, but I don't have that issue. I actually enjoy small talk with strangers

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      I don't trust them with produce, but pretty much everything else it's highly convenient for me. I'm certainly happy for the apps to tell me which aisle a food is in, but then I have to hunt anyway. It's certainly not faster for me to walk around versus just picking up the ready to go ordered stuff.

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        I'm faster than anyone who works there, and I don't need to worry about long lines (usually the self checkout is the faster option). The time saved is my payment.

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        You should change place then??

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          Wait, is this a thing? What's wrong with you people?

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            I will never understand those who are afraid to face down a cashier. Is it REALLY that bad?

            So many people complain about how modern society is isolating, but then go running to do stuff where they further isolate themselves.

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            It's not that bad, it's just more bad than self check.

            Personally I hate waiting in line, I can feel the life leaving my body. I self check for speed.

            Apparently line impatience is an ADHD thing, but regardless of where it comes from I appreciate being able to do it myself instead of waiting.

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              I am definitely not an outgoing or social person, but a big "Thank You" to all those pro-self-checkout folks ITT for making me feel like a social butterfly. I'm gonna brag and annouce I can say, "Hi." and "Thanks" to a cashier like a goddamn boss.

              That is if the cashier isn't even more socially awkward/angry at their boss than I am and refuses to talk at all.

              Woot! I'm gonna run for office!

              Reporter: "Sturger, how are your policies going to improve life for the average voter?"
              Me: "Get these goddamn cameras and microphones out of my fucking face. Thanks."

              Camera pans as I push my shopping cart out the door like a pro.

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              • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                This was funny like a decade ago when it was commonplace.

                Stores in my area solved that at least 6 years ago, maybe even earlier than that.

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                Stores near me first put in self checkouts around a decade ago and still have the original, problematic machines. It's the newer stores or ones recently renovated that have upgraded, but that is rare.

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                  In every store I've been in, I'm the guy who has to take everything out of my cart and put it on the little conveyor belt thing. Self checkout is a second or two on top of that (which is usually made up by not having to wait in line) with no real additional effort (I'm already picking up and placing my stuff in a specific spot) I also can type in my number for the coupons at the same time I'm scanning my card, and move the bags into my cart as my payment is being processed, which ends up saving even more time.

                  The only place I appreciate a cashier is when I get a boatload of groceries at Costco, those folks are box-packing wizards.

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                    As a former cashier, I really hate people like you.

                    No, I will not check out your groceries for you. You are in self checkout. Wait in line like everyone else if you don't want to check out the items yourself, you impatient, obsolete bastard. FFS, self checkout has been a thing for over twenty years now; get with it, old man!

                    (Edit: I haven't been in retail for over a decade now. This post really triggered some PTSD I didn't even know I had.)

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                      Most folks think their hourly wage is the employer's cost. By the time you add it all up, a $15 cashier actually costs $25-$30. For almost any employer, wages are the number one expense. If they started paying that again, you bet we'd pay more.

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                      Have you been in the American minimum wage job market in the last 10 years or so? Every job that pays minimum wage doesn't give enough hours for the employee to be full-time, which means they don't get benefits, retirement contributions, etc. In these cases, outside of the onboarding costs, a $15 an hour employee does in fact cost $15 an hour.

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                        Am I afraid to face down a cashier? No.

                        Is it REALLY that bad? No.

                        Can I make awkward small talk with a stranger? Yes.

                        Do I want to make awkward small talk with a stranger? No.

                        Am I relieved that I’m not forced to interact with a stranger and can continue to have to my own inner thoughts and not have to spend time rehearsing in my head what to say if they ask me how I am because I feel weirdly compelled to answer it honestly instead of simply saying β€œfine” like most do? Absolutely.

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                        A grocery store I used to frequent, I always picked this one lady's cashier line if she was around 'cause she was nice to talk to. She liked Mortal Kombat and making her own pickles.

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                          then go running to do stuff where they further isolate themselves

                          Mmm yeah, cos it's such quality time interacting with the cashier. Like, you're not totally wrong about the problem, isolation does make us even less able to handle interaction, but making people bag groceries for a living is not the way to solve that problem. Anyway, it's not fair to force your desire to have a conversation on someone who is trapped working somewhere.

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                          I used to work service, and having people to talk to generally made the day much better. I definitely had favorite customers, and what do you know, it was typically people who were social.

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                            Oopsie, accidentally forgot to scan an item

                            (Don't worry, I check the statute of limitations so you can't charge me with a felony 😏)

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                            • thatweirdguy1001@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                              I know I'm in the minority but I prefer self checkout so I don't have to talk to people. Same reason I quit customer service work. I do not want to hear about your day I want to pay for my shit and leave.

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                              I know I'm in the minority

                              Dude look around the comment section. 90% talk about prefering self checkout

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                                Speaking as someone who worked cash as a teenager/young adult, no we don't want to fucking talk to you. I was there because I liked money and that was a reliable way to make minimum wage. That's it. I didn't have a passion for scanning items and asking for payment. I had tuition to pay and debt racking up. I wasn't there to chat with you, or improve the customer experience. I was there to get paid and I can tell you that most if not all of the other cashier's were in the same boat.

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                                That's what I'm saying! Not 1 in 20 cashiers give a shit to chat you up. And I'm in the American South!

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                                  The self checkout prints a receipt with a bar code on it and you have to scan it to leave the store.

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                                  Is there something physically preventing you? That sounds like a thing the fire department would shit all over.

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                                    Ever since I saw that the grocery store near the train station in my city (which is famously one of the worst in the country in terms of crime) had self checkout without even a gate to scan your receipt for a while (they added it now) and has the handheld scanners, I've been assuming that the added theft from either really can't be that bad, or is a result of poor security. Clearly it's worth it for the higher customer throughput for that store, so I kinda doubt it could be that bad especially in safer areas.

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                                    I guess the store I went lost more money than what the cost of maintaining these barcode scanners and the system itself was.

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                                      In Europe it's becoming popular to have scanners at the store entrance that you can take and scan your products as you go. Sometimes you can also do it with a phone app instead. Then, at the self-checkout, you just scan one code instead and pay right away. I love this system because it's quicker and you get to avoid the anxiety of packing your bags too slowly.

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                                      I would kill for this. Maybe not kil, it's not a big deal. But I used to walk into my local grocer and just drop shit in the reusable bags I always bring. Then people were stealing, obviously, so they said you gotta use the baskets or a cart. So I use a cart, and it's not a big deal, it doesn't matter, but if I could scan, drop in my bag, and walk on, it would save a couple minutes. But as I said, it's not a big deal, nothing matters.

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                                        Wait, is this a thing? What's wrong with you people?

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                                        I love my self-checkout, so much better than waiting in line for a slow cashier to make chitchat.

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                                          I will never understand those who are afraid to face down a cashier. Is it REALLY that bad?

                                          So many people complain about how modern society is isolating, but then go running to do stuff where they further isolate themselves.

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                                          I've never even considered it. If I have too many items, I go cashier. We shoot the poop or we don't, I bag my groceries and go home. If I have few items, I qualify for the self-checkout, I do my shit, say "Thank you" to the person who monitors the lanes, and then I go home. I give none of it a second thought because it's such a meaningless part of my day.

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