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UK households could face VPN 'ban' after use skyrockets following Online Safety Bill

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    Isn't this currently what Russia is trying to do with their internet?

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    It's something russia has been doing for a decade and got pretty good at.

    A long term blanket vpn ban is not compatible with a modern digital infrastructure, but with certain protocols (openvpn, wireguard) they can detect their usage and filter them out when necessary.

    It does require a lot of expensive DPI (deep packet inspection) hardware I'm not sure UK has, so building a Great Firewall of Britain (Hadrian's Firewall?) will take some time.

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    • mudman@fedia.ioM [email protected]

      Just to fast-forward this dumb cat-and-mouse thing, the next step is people go back to torrenting their porn and deeper down the rabbit hole of garbage "free" websites skirting the rules.

      As always, the UK is useful on the international stage because sometimes you need to be able to point at some idiot trying dumb stuff to explain to people why dumb stuff is dumb.

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      It does feel that way. UK bureaucracy is just one giant guinea pig stunting it's own commonwealth.

      Next someone will try enforcing paper umbrellas as a solution for climate action. We'll all say, "That won't work". They'll still do it; it won't work. We'll say, "We told you so", and it won't get reversed because they're already aiming at the next foot to shoot.

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        Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

        "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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        That sounds awful lot like dictatorship...

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          I’m uninformed. What’s the reason for the porn ID thing? Is it just porn or more?

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          • flamekebab@piefed.socialF [email protected]

            Best of luck with that, idiots. How are you planning to tell the difference between my personal VPN and my work VPN?

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            Well we just fire you, and the one you’re still using then must be your personal one!

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            • K [email protected]

              I’m uninformed. What’s the reason for the porn ID thing? Is it just porn or more?

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              Surveillance due to paranoia due to all the shady shit they're doing.

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                I’m uninformed. What’s the reason for the porn ID thing? Is it just porn or more?

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                Must protect the children

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                  Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                  "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                  Freedom from EU regulation. 😋

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                    Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                    "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                    Come on UK, just skip all the boring parts and make unremovable collars for everyone fitted with GPS, cameras and miniature bombs that can be remotely detonated. After all, that's the only way to make sure nobody is doing bad, very bad illegal stuff and to PROTECT THE CHILDREN, isn't it? Fucking hell, these fucks really are trying to create a bloody dystopia...

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                    • J [email protected]

                      Next up, zeros and/or ones

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                      That's good. Everyone can read base 1.

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                        Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                        "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                        Why not just ban all human rights while you're at it?

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                        • maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zoneM [email protected]

                          It's something russia has been doing for a decade and got pretty good at.

                          A long term blanket vpn ban is not compatible with a modern digital infrastructure, but with certain protocols (openvpn, wireguard) they can detect their usage and filter them out when necessary.

                          It does require a lot of expensive DPI (deep packet inspection) hardware I'm not sure UK has, so building a Great Firewall of Britain (Hadrian's Firewall?) will take some time.

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                          Just to add that Hadrian's Firewall used to exist/does exist, I think. It was located in BT's main POP in Newcastle.

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                          • luouth@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                            Bye bye UK economy. How do you expect businesses to work without VPNs?

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                            My guess they will block VPN services IP addresses like proton, shouldn't affect business VPN.

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                            • Z [email protected]

                              Why not just ban all human rights while you're at it?

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                              Little by little!
                              Can't do it all at once or the peasants populace might catch on!

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                              • K [email protected]

                                Well we just fire you, and the one you’re still using then must be your personal one!

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                                He means, how is the government supposed to tell the difference between personal and work vpns.

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                                  I’m uninformed. What’s the reason for the porn ID thing? Is it just porn or more?

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                                  Christian evangelists at the root of it all. 'nuff said.

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                                    Then, we move to the socks proxy, or tor, or other options I haven’t even considered yet.

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                                      100% Brexit quickly shut up similar movements when people saw how badly it went

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                                        Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                                        "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                                        Will the next step be banning VPS then? Because that's what will happen: if you ban VPNs (good luck with that lol), people will just connect to a VPS in a less stupid country and exit from there.

                                        I hope they start looking at TOR too, that should be really fun.

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                                          Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

                                          "If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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                                          Show me a ban that didn’t came with 10x problems. People have their needs even the filthy ones. Especially the filthy ones. Hence will find a way to fulfill it. If there’s no legal way to do so the demand will create an alternative market for it to match the demand…more trouble on the way if that’s the lane the UK choose

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