UK households could face VPN 'ban' after use skyrockets following Online Safety Bill
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I am pretty sure they would consider tor as using a VPN.
Probably they would demand ISPs to run lists of known VPN addresses and if you connect to them, they will forward the information to the anti-terrorism unit and you will get SWATed.
If Russia, China, and Iran cannot stop tor usage, there's no way the UK can do it.
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EU is about to do the exact same thing. Norway is the place to be. That's where I went - at least according to my ip address.
Huh. I’m also “moving” soon. Any reason for Norway over Switzerland?
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Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.
"If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.
It's not so easy to ban VPNs. They need to setup DPI everywhere. And then people will start using DPI circumvention software.
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It does feel that way. UK bureaucracy is just one giant guinea pig stunting it's own commonwealth.
Next someone will try enforcing paper umbrellas as a solution for climate action. We'll all say, "That won't work". They'll still do it; it won't work. We'll say, "We told you so", and it won't get reversed because they're already aiming at the next foot to shoot.
There has to be a logical next step for the information age. Old school government is not fucking working, and we can all see it.
The fact that there aren't large scale riots already is astounding.
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Huh. I’m also “moving” soon. Any reason for Norway over Switzerland?
Not sure about the situation in Norway, but Switzerland has a quite right-conservative government and is also expanding their surveillance , e.g. Proton freezes Swiss investment over surveillance fears
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Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.
"If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.
This kinda proves that it was never about the children. How many children have know how and the means to buy a VPN subscription?
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Man I can't follow UK politics. I thought Labour was a progressive party
Old labour was.
They pivoted quite hard a few years ago to try and win an election.
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If Russia, China, and Iran cannot stop tor usage, there's no way the UK can do it.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Don't the people in those countries use a proxy to access tor first? probably that means cycling through the proxies regularly as they become known. I have no doubt that it is impossible to prevent truly tech savvy people from access. Also Russia, Iran and China all run state sanctioned hackers, so the governments have a vested interest in allowing these groups to obscure where they are coming from.
But i am not sure how much that transpires to a broader public.
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Don't the people in those countries use a proxy to access tor first? probably that means cycling through the proxies regularly as they become known. I have no doubt that it is impossible to prevent truly tech savvy people from access. Also Russia, Iran and China all run state sanctioned hackers, so the governments have a vested interest in allowing these groups to obscure where they are coming from.
But i am not sure how much that transpires to a broader public.
That's what things like snowflake and bridges are for. Because, at least with snowflake, it just looks like a webRTC phone call. But it's actually tor traffic. And snowflake proxies are ephemeral, since you can just run them in your browser and help anyone connect.
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I’m uninformed. What’s the reason for the porn ID thing? Is it just porn or more?
It's never about the children, it's an excuse for surveillance capitalism.
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VPN in businesses is mostly to secure internal use infrastructure against external threats. Use for remote working is an afterthought.
Oh that makes it easier for the government.
Maybe that the end goal, force people back into the office by banning vpn
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Show me a ban that didn’t came with 10x problems. People have their needs even the filthy ones. Especially the filthy ones. Hence will find a way to fulfill it. If there’s no legal way to do so the demand will create an alternative market for it to match the demand…more trouble on the way if that’s the lane the UK choose
We all know that prohibition in the US was a rousing success!
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Come on UK, just skip all the boring parts and make unremovable collars for everyone fitted with GPS, cameras and miniature bombs that can be remotely detonated. After all, that's the only way to make sure nobody is doing bad, very bad illegal stuff and to PROTECT THE CHILDREN, isn't it? Fucking hell, these fucks really are trying to create a bloody dystopia...
They think 1984 is a manual.
Oh, wait, no, that was about the evil communists. -
Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.
"If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.
Couldn't people just hire a VPS in another country and VPN with that using Wireguard etc, or even use RDP etc to it? Is it even a VPN if you're remotely operating a computer in another country?
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What would be defined as a VPN and even then there are other options to get access to content as if you where in a different country or ways to bypass the age restriction.
A lot of companies and governments also use VPN's to get people to work on their servers, so how would the UK function.It always baffles me that they try shit like that.
Edit: heck proper sex education is a way better solution to reduce unhealthy sex habits
Edit: heck proper sex education is a way better solution to reduce unhealthy sex habits
It's not about sex, or protecting the children.
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Freenet, I2P and Tor will be the new refuge
I think it's Hyphanet now.
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How many small businesses can afford such permit? Hell, I'd argue that even bigger companies will have a problem paying for that.
Also, what if I just connect to a vps overseas and set my exit point there? Will they ban vps too? This is gonna be so much fun to see from the outside
How many small businesses can afford such permit? Hell, I'd argue that even bigger companies will have a problem paying for that.
Feature, not a bug.
They want people back in offices to help landlords and property prices. This way they can say that remote work is not banned and it's just companies choosing not to buy a permit and offer it.
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How many small businesses can afford such permit? Hell, I'd argue that even bigger companies will have a problem paying for that.
Feature, not a bug.
They want people back in offices to help landlords and property prices. This way they can say that remote work is not banned and it's just companies choosing not to buy a permit and offer it.
I work from office and i regularly use a vpn at work to connect remotely to devices that are not physically with me. Not to talk about companies that provide remote assistance and use them to connect to their customers devices.
Remote work is just a byproduct of vpns, but not the real reason why you use them at work.
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How many small businesses can afford such permit? Hell, I'd argue that even bigger companies will have a problem paying for that.
Also, what if I just connect to a vps overseas and set my exit point there? Will they ban vps too? This is gonna be so much fun to see from the outside
yes everything will be banned and binned. better dust off that carrier pigeon
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He means, how is the government supposed to tell the difference between personal and work vpns.
he just answered your question. maybe read it again
