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What are some conversation nonstarters in mainstream Lemmy.World?

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  • O [email protected]

    Nobody has claimed your views on AI count as a worldview, nor are they in any way relevant to this discussion. The discussion is about you blanket dismissing everyone who criticizes “wokeness” as a bot.

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    Okay then, swap out AI with wokeness, it still doesn't come to the level of a "worldview". It is still an observation.

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      Okay then, swap out AI with wokeness, it still doesn't come to the level of a "worldview". It is still an observation.

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      You can swap out "worldview" with any other term you like as that is neither relevant to the discussion. You're getting hung up on terms and completely ignoring the substance of my argument.

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        You can swap out "worldview" with any other term you like as that is neither relevant to the discussion. You're getting hung up on terms and completely ignoring the substance of my argument.

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        Yes I had an inflammatory response. I honestly don't perceive OP as making a good faith argument when they say "negative effects of wokeness". It's a thought terminating cliche.

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          Yes I had an inflammatory response. I honestly don't perceive OP as making a good faith argument when they say "negative effects of wokeness". It's a thought terminating cliche.

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          You're doing a lot of dodging here. The original comment you made wasn’t a neutral “observation” about AI’s impact on cognition - it was a blanket dismissal of people who criticize wokeness by claiming they're bots. That’s textbook ad hominem: attacking the people instead of engaging with what they're saying.

          Since then, you’ve shifted the conversation multiple times - from AI and cognition, to whether “worldview” is the right word, to tone and intent - none of which address my original criticism: that dismissing someone as a bot simply for expressing a particular opinion is intellectually lazy and corrosive to actual discussion.

          You can claim it's just “an observation” all you want, but the reality is that you made a personal attack in place of an argument. I'm not criticizing you for being mean - I'm criticizing you for sidestepping the discussion entirely.

          If you think critics of wokeness are wrong, then show why. Don’t just insult them and pretend that counts as insight.

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            You're doing a lot of dodging here. The original comment you made wasn’t a neutral “observation” about AI’s impact on cognition - it was a blanket dismissal of people who criticize wokeness by claiming they're bots. That’s textbook ad hominem: attacking the people instead of engaging with what they're saying.

            Since then, you’ve shifted the conversation multiple times - from AI and cognition, to whether “worldview” is the right word, to tone and intent - none of which address my original criticism: that dismissing someone as a bot simply for expressing a particular opinion is intellectually lazy and corrosive to actual discussion.

            You can claim it's just “an observation” all you want, but the reality is that you made a personal attack in place of an argument. I'm not criticizing you for being mean - I'm criticizing you for sidestepping the discussion entirely.

            If you think critics of wokeness are wrong, then show why. Don’t just insult them and pretend that counts as insight.

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            If you think critics of wokeness are wrong, then show why. Don’t just insult them and pretend that counts as insight.

            Why would someone take the time to explain something to someone arguing in bad faith? Sounds like a foolish endeavor.

            I'll leave you with the words from OP elsewhere in this thread because it equally applies to you:

            Thanks, but I didn’t ask that and your assertion is based on your own bias/opinion

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