Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

agnos.is Forums

  1. Home
  2. Ask Lemmy
  3. What's the "keeping it real" history that Americans are taught the whitewashed version in school?

What's the "keeping it real" history that Americans are taught the whitewashed version in school?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Ask Lemmy
asklemmy
45 Posts 27 Posters 0 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • B [email protected]

    13th Amendment (mostly) abolished slavery. 14th establishes birthright citizenship and requirements to serve in public office.

    A This user is from outside of this forum
    A This user is from outside of this forum
    [email protected]
    wrote last edited by
    #36

    Ah you’re right, got my wires switched.

    Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

    Amazing how many states passed vagrancy laws in the decades after that…

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
    • F [email protected]

      In keeping with this month's news, if you don't know what the Japanese American Internment Camps are, or were rather, you might read up on them. I wasn't taught about them at all.

      Another thing that's I think more niche but still ought to be taught is the history of censorship of anti-war protests. There were some terrible rulings about a hundred years ago that were later reversed, and that all made it possible for people to protest Vietnam the way they did.

      Finally, one piece of history that's missing from many high school civics classes is any discussion of how unions themselves led to the minimal labor laws that we have today, that union members were killed in large numbers in the process of pushing for said laws.

      ? Offline
      ? Offline
      Guest
      wrote last edited by Guest
      #37

      I learned quite a bit about the Japanese American internment camps in middle school and high school. This was when I was living near Seattle where there's a large Japanese community, so that's probably why.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • F [email protected]

        no, women are still property

        starlinguk@lemmy.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
        starlinguk@lemmy.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
        [email protected]
        wrote last edited by
        #38

        We're doing sarcasm.

        1 Reply Last reply
        1
        • 0 [email protected]

          I'm not from there but I'll say that The US doesn't intervene overseas in order "to spread democracy" or "to protect the world from the evils of communism" but to protect its economic interests, to increase the profits of capitalists through industries such as weapons and oil, and to make sure that no socialism occurs that threatens the stranglehold of capitalism.

          Some books to check:

          • Major General Smedley D. Butler - War Is A Racket
          • Tim Weiner - Legacy Of Ashes: The History Of The CIA
          • William Blum - Killing Hope: US Military And CIA Interventions Since World War II
          • Noam Chomsky - What Uncle Sam Really Wants
          C This user is from outside of this forum
          C This user is from outside of this forum
          [email protected]
          wrote last edited by
          #39

          That's a massive oversimplification. The US has always had active domestic politics and many competing factions driving it's policy.

          What money did Afghanistan have?

          0 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • C [email protected]

            That's a massive oversimplification. The US has always had active domestic politics and many competing factions driving it's policy.

            What money did Afghanistan have?

            0 This user is from outside of this forum
            0 This user is from outside of this forum
            [email protected]
            wrote last edited by
            #40

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan

            I'm sure there were other things/resources to extract/control there, but this is the one I know and remembered off the top of my head.

            It's also a good place to do a real life test of (actual) weapons of mass destruction. A showroom of violence for potential buyers across the world.

            C 1 Reply Last reply
            1
            • 0 [email protected]

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan

              I'm sure there were other things/resources to extract/control there, but this is the one I know and remembered off the top of my head.

              It's also a good place to do a real life test of (actual) weapons of mass destruction. A showroom of violence for potential buyers across the world.

              C This user is from outside of this forum
              C This user is from outside of this forum
              [email protected]
              wrote last edited by [email protected]
              #41

              There's some lapis lazuli I guess, but it's mostly a subsistence, agrarian-type economy. You'd be hard-pressed to show the US profiting from the opium; they actually destroyed quite a lot of the crops they could get their hands on. Just because of the amount of area it covers there's geological deposits of other things, but it's undeveloped.

              It's an exceptionally poor, sparsely populated tract of dry steppe that's famous for baiting in and devastating empires. The US invaded to get Bin Laden, and then stayed because a critical mass of their elite genuinely wanted to fix it before going.

              It’s also a good place to do a real life test of (actual) weapons of mass destruction. A showroom of violence for potential buyers across the world.

              That's true of anywhere you want to blow up, so by that measure your goalpost is literally anything happening.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • P [email protected]

                Obviously we don't learn about unions at all. But the one that strikes me the most is the omission of the Battle of Blair Mountain, where the US government sent the army after the coal miners.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

                The Wilmington 1989 coup: After the Civil War, Wilmington North Carolina had a mostly black government. That didn't sit right with the whites, so they staged and successfully completed a Coup & overthrew the government. Only officially successful Coup to occur in the USA.
                https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/when-white-supremacists-overthrew-government/

                9/11 - The much lesser known 9/11 occurs in Chili in on 9/11/1973. During a US sponsored coup, the revolutionaries smash an airplane into the capitol building. My not-so-conspiracy theory is there's a reason the US event happened on 9/11 as well.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d'état

                return2ozma@lemmy.worldR This user is from outside of this forum
                return2ozma@lemmy.worldR This user is from outside of this forum
                [email protected]
                wrote last edited by
                #42

                Union power!

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • 0 [email protected]

                  I'm not from there but I'll say that The US doesn't intervene overseas in order "to spread democracy" or "to protect the world from the evils of communism" but to protect its economic interests, to increase the profits of capitalists through industries such as weapons and oil, and to make sure that no socialism occurs that threatens the stranglehold of capitalism.

                  Some books to check:

                  • Major General Smedley D. Butler - War Is A Racket
                  • Tim Weiner - Legacy Of Ashes: The History Of The CIA
                  • William Blum - Killing Hope: US Military And CIA Interventions Since World War II
                  • Noam Chomsky - What Uncle Sam Really Wants
                  curious_canid@lemmy.caC This user is from outside of this forum
                  curious_canid@lemmy.caC This user is from outside of this forum
                  [email protected]
                  wrote last edited by
                  #43

                  To quote a popular bumper sticker:
                  Be nice to America or we'll bring democracy to your country.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  1
                  • H [email protected]

                    I did not find out about the Tuskegee Syphilis Study until adulthood. Its the biggest thing I can think of.

                    H This user is from outside of this forum
                    H This user is from outside of this forum
                    [email protected]
                    wrote last edited by
                    #44

                    I was in college when I found out about Tuskegee, as well as Operation Northwoods, Project MK Ultra, and the cover-up of Unit 731.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • B [email protected]

                      The "War of Northern Agression" started by Confederates shooting at an American fort.

                      R This user is from outside of this forum
                      R This user is from outside of this forum
                      [email protected]
                      wrote last edited by
                      #45

                      I mean, such things can be false flags. It wouldn't make sense, the Confederates were much weaker strategically and knew it.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      Reply
                      • Reply as topic
                      Log in to reply
                      • Oldest to Newest
                      • Newest to Oldest
                      • Most Votes


                      • Login

                      • Login or register to search.
                      • First post
                        Last post
                      0
                      • Categories
                      • Recent
                      • Tags
                      • Popular
                      • World
                      • Users
                      • Groups