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Orbán: “Ukraine is not NATO member and I intend to keep it that way”

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  • real_squids@sopuli.xyzR [email protected]

    I thought you were talking about Ukraine's head of UAV forces for a second lol

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    I'm more of a fan of that one than the Turkish one. Hope it doesn't come to that!

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      Can't we just combine Austria and Hungary again? Everybody loved that.

      Well, except Bosnian Serbs I guess.

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      Austria isn't as blatant as Hungary but their policy is also pretty russia-friendly.

      And there is a reason A-H collapsed and it wasn't just because of WW1 and Bosnian Serbs. Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Romanians or basically anybody who wasn't German or Hungarian hated the monarchy in the end(With the possible exception of the Croats, who reached some kind of agreement with Hungarians right before the collapse).

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        Damn, I hate this man so much.

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        • M [email protected]

          Evict Hungary from the EU and NATO

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          I think if it comes to that, the Hungarian people will be VERY pissed off.

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            While he's not as extreme as Órban, Magyar is also against helping Ukraine defend itself, and he's being at least ambivalent about letting join the EU and NATO after the war.

            We might have a Hungary problem, not a Fidesz problem.

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            #20

            Seems like we usually do. Still the sick man of Europe, I guess

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            • green_mouse@piefed.socialG [email protected]

              I think if it comes to that, the Hungarian people will be VERY pissed off.

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              Should have voted differently then.

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              • green_mouse@piefed.socialG [email protected]

                I think if it comes to that, the Hungarian people will be VERY pissed off.

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                That's their problem.

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                  I'll celebrate the day when the people of Hungary do the right thing.

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                    I'd trade Ukraine getting NATO membership if it means Hungary loses it.

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                    Yeah, at least we know that Ukrainians aren't fifth columnists.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      Homie looks like the heel of a foot. Putin sure knows how to pick the pretty ones.

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                      Toady looks like toad.

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                        Fish rots from the head first.

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                          Books are where it's at!

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                          A journalist should ask him if Trump's asshole tastes like Putin's dick.

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                            I think if it comes to that, the Hungarian people will be VERY pissed off.

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                            Honestly they should already be VERY pissed off

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                              Do we need to do Trianon again?

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                                Hungary should follow Slovakia’s proposal and leave NATO.

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                                • V [email protected]

                                  While he's not as extreme as Órban, Magyar is also against helping Ukraine defend itself, and he's being at least ambivalent about letting join the EU and NATO after the war.

                                  We might have a Hungary problem, not a Fidesz problem.

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                                  When faced with the choice of good relations with the EU (including funding and cooperation) and standing with Putin, Magyar may, unlike Orban, make the pragmatic choice.

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                                    Evict Hungary from the EU and NATO

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                                    I don't think there's any need to evict it to pressure it to vote the right way.

                                    So Hungary blocking things is a collective performance.

                                    Or maybe not, then the leverage they gain from veto is more than the pressure put at them. In such case that leverage is apparently damn big and they are a small country.

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                                      While he's not as extreme as Órban, Magyar is also against helping Ukraine defend itself, and he's being at least ambivalent about letting join the EU and NATO after the war.

                                      We might have a Hungary problem, not a Fidesz problem.

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                                      When you have someone blow the double of the whole healthcare budget on Ukraine fearmongering, who has been supported by a practically unlimited EU budget, it becomes hard to campaign on Ukraine.

                                      Magyar pledged to have a referendum on Ukraine joining, when the question actually comes up. I don't know what else he can do right now, considering the situation.

                                      Most Hungarians support the unconditional early joining of Ukraine BTW, and a lot more support it if conditions are kept.

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                                      • green_mouse@piefed.socialG [email protected]

                                        Damn, I hate this man so much.

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                                        "There’s nobody that’s better, smarter or a better leader than Viktor Orbán. He’s fantastic. He's a noncontroversial figure because he said, ‘This is the way it’s going to be,’ and that’s the end of it, right? He’s the boss and … he’s a great leader, fantastic leader. In Europe and around the world, they respect him."

                                        Donald Trump, predictably

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                                          Yeah, at least we know that Ukrainians aren't fifth columnists.

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                                          Yeah, with their filthy newspapers.

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