Orbán: “Ukraine is not NATO member and I intend to keep it that way”
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While he's not as extreme as Órban, Magyar is also against helping Ukraine defend itself, and he's being at least ambivalent about letting join the EU and NATO after the war.
We might have a Hungary problem, not a Fidesz problem.
When faced with the choice of good relations with the EU (including funding and cooperation) and standing with Putin, Magyar may, unlike Orban, make the pragmatic choice.
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Evict Hungary from the EU and NATO
I don't think there's any need to evict it to pressure it to vote the right way.
So Hungary blocking things is a collective performance.
Or maybe not, then the leverage they gain from veto is more than the pressure put at them. In such case that leverage is apparently damn big and they are a small country.
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While he's not as extreme as Órban, Magyar is also against helping Ukraine defend itself, and he's being at least ambivalent about letting join the EU and NATO after the war.
We might have a Hungary problem, not a Fidesz problem.
When you have someone blow the double of the whole healthcare budget on Ukraine fearmongering, who has been supported by a practically unlimited EU budget, it becomes hard to campaign on Ukraine.
Magyar pledged to have a referendum on Ukraine joining, when the question actually comes up. I don't know what else he can do right now, considering the situation.
Most Hungarians support the unconditional early joining of Ukraine BTW, and a lot more support it if conditions are kept.
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Damn, I hate this man so much.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]"There’s nobody that’s better, smarter or a better leader than Viktor Orbán. He’s fantastic. He's a noncontroversial figure because he said, ‘This is the way it’s going to be,’ and that’s the end of it, right? He’s the boss and … he’s a great leader, fantastic leader. In Europe and around the world, they respect him."
Donald Trump, predictably
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Yeah, at least we know that Ukrainians aren't fifth columnists.
Yeah, with their filthy newspapers.
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Sometimes you have to be that when a completely separate nation invades your sovereign nation illegally.
They are at least not as fishy as putin, damn that man stinks.
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I'll celebrate the day when the people of Hungary do the right thing.
What makes you think they will?
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Honestly they should already be VERY pissed off
Orbán does just enough for farmers to keep them voting for him. Keeping Ukraine out of the EU is part of that - if Ukraine were a member, Hungarian wheat prices would plummet.
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Orbán does just enough for farmers to keep them voting for him. Keeping Ukraine out of the EU is part of that - if Ukraine were a member, Hungarian wheat prices would plummet.
It's so selfish and low...
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good thing our glorious german arms manufacturer Rheinmetall (creators of the Leopard tanks) built the world's most high-tech tank factory in fucking Hungary of all places. Putin will soon sport some sleak looking new MBT's in Ukraine thanks to us greedy Germans
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Do we need to do Trianon again?
Do a Quaternon. No part of Hungary stays independent.
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FTFH: Orbán: “Ukraine is not NATO member and I
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What makes you think they will?
I am sure many of them want to.
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I'll celebrate the day when the people of Hungary do the right thing.
Around May next year. Might not be the right thing we're both thinking of, but at least there will be elections in 2026.
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Hungary should follow Slovakia’s proposal and leave NATO.
If the next year's elections fail and Orbán stays in power then we can start calling it Western Belarus from then on.
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FTFH: Orbán: “Ukraine is not NATO member and I
intendwas commanded by Putin to keep it that way”Quote: "NATO has no business in Ukraine. Ukraine, just like Russia, isn't a NATO member, and my job is to make sure it stays that way."
He said it was "his job" but never mentioned who he works for
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I agree when invaders break into my house I cook them dinner and ask if they want to fuck my wife too.
That's diplomatic of you, but those house locks and your wife's autonomy invited the home invaders in the first place. You have to be more preemptive about this.
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Evict Hungary from the EU and NATO
Just suspend them until they meet NATO and EU standards again. It would really suck for Hungary and it's neighbors to fall into full Russian control.
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Austria isn't as blatant as Hungary but their policy is also pretty russia-friendly.
And there is a reason A-H collapsed and it wasn't just because of WW1 and Bosnian Serbs. Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Romanians or basically anybody who wasn't German or Hungarian hated the monarchy in the end(With the possible exception of the Croats, who reached some kind of agreement with Hungarians right before the collapse).
for a second I thought A-H stood for Adolf-Hitler lol
those acronyms will one day be the death of me
