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Russia "cannot accept" Trump's Ukraine peace plans

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    The Art of the Deal

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      Biden is the new Obama excuse.

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      Thanks, O’Biden.

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        Trump loses then.

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          I'm kinda interested to see how he weasels out of this. He can't stand up to putin and he's sold himself as ending the war.

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          He'll say it's all fake news and that he is simply going to make everyone agree to his most perfect, absolutely bestest deal ever!.

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          • adespoton@lemmy.caA [email protected]

            Neither can Ukraine.

            Bullies aren’t usually the best people to negotiate peace between a bully and a victim who is standing up to them.

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            Neither can Ukraine.

            True, but Ukraine has played this game pretty well in my opinion. They keep negotiations going, speak nicely about the deal in public and at least in here media represents Ukraine as willing and open of discussion about whatever deal Trump suggests, no matter how bat shit crazy they are.

            I mean, Ukraine isn't stupid enough to sign off all of their wealth to USA or surrender land without any significant gain. But they can now at least say that they're willing to discuss about the matter while Russia just bluntly rejects the proposals.

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              The Art of the Deal

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              Thanks, you made me genuinely laugh, I needed that

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                Now Trump is gonna be really “pissed off”.

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                He'll put some tariffs on Russian exports, this will show them!

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                  This was such a favorable deal for Russia thst if they did infact want peace it would have been an easy decision.

                  But they want to conquer Europe, so this doesn't work.

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                    Putin never intended to end that war without a complete surrender of Ukraine.

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                      This was such a favorable deal for Russia thst if they did infact want peace it would have been an easy decision.

                      But they want to conquer Europe, so this doesn't work.

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                      It wasn't even a final peace state, so it could easily have been pushed sideways in the future, and clearly the Americans wanted the win so badly that they would have let anything happen at the finish line.

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