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Netherlands: 18 year old Ryan al-Najjar was tied up, beaten, and drowned by her father and brothers for being too Westernized

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  • B [email protected]

    What is whataboutism, Alex?

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    Whataboutism is a lateral move. What I suggested was a zoom-out.

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    • N [email protected]

      The whole idea of religion is outdated. Abrahamic religions all share a similar problem. The real issue arises when a religion meets a particular culture.

      No normal culture should/would ever allow this kind of thing to happen. Fundamentalist Islamic culture is the most harmful plague of its kind. It's miles ahead of other any other problematic religious cultures, and it's significant enough to be concerned.

      It's something we should actively denounce and criticize, and it's not racist or disrespectful to other cultures to do so.

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      Which occupied territories are Muslim countries presently starving and/or bombing?

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      • V [email protected]

        Islam is a plague.

        I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.

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        Westerners can be so fucking weird. Some of these people would rather let teenage girls get beaten to death than risk compromising their own white saviour complex and need to feel tolerant. My family was Muslim and I've been told, by the whitest of the white, that I'm racist for saying something against Islam because "cultures must be respected". I am racist against my own people? Oh my.. then, of course, there's the other Westerners who believe I obviously have four wives and trade in camels even when I claim not to be religious..

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          Someone paid no attention to religious fundamentalist in history. Religion is just a form of division. No different than race, age, class, or sexuality. If there's a religion (or any other kind of group) they've killed ppl for not conforming

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          Yes, and Islamic fundamentalists are the worst in terms of what we have in this age. They outnumber and outdo anyone else.

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            Islam is a plague.

            I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.

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            Religion is a plague.

            You can believe in things, even god(s) and not be “religious.” But as soon as religion kicks in, and the dogmatism and compartmentalization that comes with it, it becomes a tool of authoritarianism, which itself breeds every kind of inhuman horror imaginable.

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              Which occupied territories are Muslim countries presently starving and/or bombing?

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              #135

              That's more geopolitical than cultural, which ultimately is cultural, yes, but I think you know the difference.

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              • M [email protected]

                Not everyone has the privilege to choose where they move.

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                If you're a Syrian refugee you definitely have the choice of going to Turkey rather than all the long way to the Netherlands..

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                • doxxx@lemmy.caD [email protected]

                  You singled out leftists as doing something bad, ergo leftists are bad. Sorry, a bit of a knee jerk reaction on my part.

                  I guess it’s probably because leftists tend to promote religious tolerance even where it isn’t deserved (imo).

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                  Again, im not really sure why when religion, in modern practice, is almost explicitly against every leftist goal despite its teachings.

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                  • V [email protected]

                    Islam is a plague.

                    I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.

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                    Cat Stevens is despicable and Sinead O'Connor is pathetic. The new pope is complicit in child abuse. The Rimpoche was an HIV superspreader, and Mohammed was a warlord.

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                      The VAST majority of Muslims are just regular, kind people who don't murder their families.

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                      Yeah that's great.

                      But why, I really hate to be this guy right now, do leftists not platform Christianity if that is the case?

                      Religion is a plague on this earth, just to make my position clear here so some idiot doesn't think im a right wing chud.

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                        Yes, and Islamic fundamentalists are the worst in terms of what we have in this age. They outnumber and outdo anyone else.

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                        Ever heard about Gaza? About Ukraine? About Xinjiang? The cartel murders? Hindutva? But I’m glad you found a reason to spread your bigotry…

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                        • M [email protected]

                          Whataboutism is a lateral move. What I suggested was a zoom-out.

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                          "Islam is bad"

                          well what about every religion

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                          • V [email protected]

                            Islam is a plague.

                            I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.

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                            Imagine saying Judaism is a plague. This would be rightfully deleted for being actually antisemitic.

                            So please don’t let this shit up here.

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                            • N [email protected]

                              That's more geopolitical than cultural, which ultimately is cultural, yes, but I think you know the difference.

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                              I think you don't have an argument. That's what I think. BTW, which religion is presently occupying territories and bombing children and shooting food aid seekers?

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                              • N [email protected]

                                Yes, and Islamic fundamentalists are the worst in terms of what we have in this age. They outnumber and outdo anyone else.

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                                I really doubt they outdo the christofaschists...

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