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I genuinely can't wait for Mobile Linux to become a thing

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  • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

    Just one problem. Both are still dependent on Google and Android-based. How sustainable is that security model when a company has the say-so over whether you get to flash your custom firmware next year, or the next year, or maybe the year after that?

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    Right! just look how locked down android has become since the early/mid 2000's.

    You don't even have full control of your sd card anymore (if you're lucky enough to actually have a phone with an sd slot.)

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      I want this too but I don't get how you can call something like LineageOS dogshit.

      It works perfectly.

      I'm a desktop user mostly but my phone feels like the more polished experience

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      Sounds like OP was using an unnofficial miui port or smth like that

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        still better than ios lol

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        still better than ios lol

        Yeah android has termux, termux is amazing, I run emacs in it and have all the power of org mode on my phone!

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          Came here to say the same thing. I'm very happy with sailfish OS since the first jolla phone came out (10+ years). I'm certainly not a power user though.

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          I had a great time (save for bugs) playing with a Sailfish OS 2(?) phone way back. Glad they're still kicking.

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            still better than ios lol

            Yeah android has termux, termux is amazing, I run emacs in it and have all the power of org mode on my phone!

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            Yeah I am thinking of just don't care about phones. Just the cheapest second hand thing I can get for calls, sms, ssh, vlc.

            Maps would be nice, OsmAnd crashes frequently (out of memory?) on the tablet I got second hand.

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            • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

              https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-community-phone

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              Costs so much though. Thinking about what a phone even needs to do for me, what other handheld devices could work instead?

              Steamdeck perhaps? Then a brick phone for calls/sms. Not too sure what would work as a lower spec and cheaper alternative to a Steamdeck and runs Linux though.

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                I want this too but I don't get how you can call something like LineageOS dogshit.

                It works perfectly.

                I'm a desktop user mostly but my phone feels like the more polished experience

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                For sure. One or two super paranoid banking apps but literally everything else works great with microg.

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                  For sure. One or two super paranoid banking apps but literally everything else works great with microg.

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                  I've even ditched microg a few years back.
                  Depending on your usage it might not be an option, but for me it didn't make any difference

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                    Make a /system symlink and copy the drivers over?

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                    different kernel version, no?

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                    • tetris11@feddit.ukT [email protected]

                      different kernel version, no?

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                      Oh, right. The main problem slipped my mind.

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                      • djdarren@sopuli.xyzD [email protected]

                        I looked into Ubuntu Touch last week as a potential alternative to Graphene on my Pixel 9.

                        The most recent Pixel it supports is the 3.

                        So Graphene it is then...

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                        Graphene so far is the slickest one.

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                          Oh, right. The main problem slipped my mind.

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                          I mean you might be right, android kernels aren't that far off mainline these days. Copying the dtb might genuinely work

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                            Where would you even find a phone without a locked bootloader to even try this on other than a pixel, because, a google phone, to degoogle, really ? lol!

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                            Volla phone has unlocked bootloader and ships with android or linux, some even have nativ dualboot

                            https://volla.online/

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                            • djdarren@sopuli.xyzD [email protected]

                              My bank app doesn't work with Graphene, which is a pain in the arse, but not the end of the world. I mean, they still have a website I can log into.

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                              Oh, I need mine to verify who I am. I do the other things on the website vie my computer though.

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                                Where would you even find a phone without a locked bootloader to even try this on other than a pixel, because, a google phone, to degoogle, really ? lol!

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                                Interesting you should ask. It turns out that LineageOA has an entire page giving you options of compatible devices...

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                                  Where would you even find a phone without a locked bootloader to even try this on other than a pixel, because, a google phone, to degoogle, really ? lol!

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                                  I have fairphone, it comes with unlockable bootloader. Don't get the new ones tho, they suck. 3+ was the last good model before they drank the koolaid and removed the headphone jack.

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                                    I want this too but I don't get how you can call something like LineageOS dogshit.

                                    It works perfectly.

                                    I'm a desktop user mostly but my phone feels like the more polished experience

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                                    i maintain that my pixel running lineage with microg and magisk and some other stuff is about the best experience you can have on a phone

                                    It works with 0 issues 97% of the time and never annoys me, and i have basically complete control over the device.

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                                      Yeah I am thinking of just don't care about phones. Just the cheapest second hand thing I can get for calls, sms, ssh, vlc.

                                      Maps would be nice, OsmAnd crashes frequently (out of memory?) on the tablet I got second hand.

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                                      it's pretty weird that no company seems to have thought to just make a cheap minimal smartphone with a big battery and removable back cover, running a feature phone-esque modified android

                                      feature phones just aren't really feasible to use for most people these days, but that doesn't mean the only alternatives have to be phones that try to wow you with 5 billion gigapixel AI enabled cameras

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