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Vietnam setting bans on gasoline motorcycles next year, followed by cars

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  • shininghero@pawb.socialS [email protected]

    Amazing idea, but if the wiring in that second picture is anywhere near commonplace, you're going to want to put a bit more budget into power grid maintenance. That rats nest of cabling is bad enough from a low voltage IT perspective, I can only how terrifying that would be for HV engineers.

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    It's far less horrible than it looks, a lot of it is slack for repairs and re-routing. You see this across much of the world where they can't afford utility boxes under every post.

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      That seems a bit harsh

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      I promise the vast majority of citizens will actually benefit from the lowered cost of powering motorbikes and scooters.

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        It wasn’t uncommon to see someone wearing a cooking pot as a helmet

        So you're saying that people there are actually trying and making an effort to do the right thing instead of getting all bent out of shape that head protection makes them "less masculine"? I say the country has more hope than the US for lasting, effective change in policy and lifestyle.

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        Didn’t take long for someone to make this about the US lol

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          It wasn’t uncommon to see someone wearing a cooking pot as a helmet

          So you're saying that people there are actually trying and making an effort to do the right thing instead of getting all bent out of shape that head protection makes them "less masculine"? I say the country has more hope than the US for lasting, effective change in policy and lifestyle.

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          Comparing Vietnam to the US is a pretty low bar. You're not wrong but it just seems like a pretty strange comparison

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            It really is incredible how much less power you need for lower weight. Ebikes and electric scooters should be the transportation.

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            Neither an ebike nor an electric scooter would get me to work.

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              Neither an ebike nor an electric scooter would get me to work.

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              Hey look it's the "it doesn't work in 1000% of cases" guy.

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                Comparing Vietnam to the US is a pretty low bar. You're not wrong but it just seems like a pretty strange comparison

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                The internet has broadly become a really contentious shitty place where nobody can stand not being "right" about something.

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                  Hey look it's the "it doesn't work in 1000% of cases" guy.

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                  What? You didn't add 73,250 different disclaimers and qualifiers to your internet comment to make sure that your opinion includes all possible sets it applies to and none of the ones it doesn't? How problematic of you.

                  edit: to the person who had a problem with this, you are part of the problem.

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                    Is your commute>60 miles? If so, then you're only using the scooter to get to the train station. If not, there's VN scooters for <2K that can do that in an hour, and chinese scooters that are even faster.

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                      This is a policy which will hit the poor first and hardest. That's contrary to all realistic and beneficial climate action. How about banning cruise ships docking at ports in the country?

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                      They plan to buy half a million electrics for impoverished areas. Which isn't nearly enough, but it's a start.

                      btw, this is what Hanoi regularly looks like during winter.

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                        Is your commute>60 miles? If so, then you're only using the scooter to get to the train station. If not, there's VN scooters for <2K that can do that in an hour, and chinese scooters that are even faster.

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                        My commute includes interstate travel, unless I want to make my commute even longer. Escooters and Ebikes are non-starters. Not even taking into account the assortment of tools I have to carry with me for service calls.

                        All I'm getting at is the comment that I originally replied to "Ebikes and electric scooters should be the transportation" simply isn't compatible with a whole lot of people's situations, not just mine.

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                          They plan to buy half a million electrics for impoverished areas. Which isn't nearly enough, but it's a start.

                          btw, this is what Hanoi regularly looks like during winter.

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                          That's definitely a big step. I've seen swappable battery packs from China that could make it pretty realistic too if they're actually subsidizing it.

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                            My commute includes interstate travel, unless I want to make my commute even longer. Escooters and Ebikes are non-starters. Not even taking into account the assortment of tools I have to carry with me for service calls.

                            All I'm getting at is the comment that I originally replied to "Ebikes and electric scooters should be the transportation" simply isn't compatible with a whole lot of people's situations, not just mine.

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                            Maybe change your situation.

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                              After a week in Vietnam, you wont be able to look at anyone who says they need a pickup truck to carry tools without thinking "skill issue".

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                                Sounds like a pipe dream.

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