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  • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

    Summary

    Denmark and the Netherlands criticized Trump’s demand that foreign companies with U.S. government contracts eliminate diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI).

    Denmark called for a coordinated EU response, labeling the move a potential trade barrier.

    The Trump administration sent letters to European firms—including in France and Belgium—warning they must comply with a DEI ban or risk losing U.S. contracts.

    European officials condemned the letters, defending DEI as essential to corporate responsibility. The EU Commission is reviewing the situation, while the U.S. State Department called the effort a compliance measure.

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    Going to make these companies beat up gay people too?

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    • kuma@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

      Every time I read news about Trump I always wonder what his end goal is. Because he sounds so much like those end users who says unreasonable things like "you need to add/fix/change this" if it is done then they always comes back for more because they didn't get the end come they wanted and then it all turns out they wanted something that was reasonable (or not) but they demand changes that won't do that.

      Is his end goal really getting more jobs?

      And I wonder what kind of jobs he wish to create because a lot of Americans seem to have many weird jobs already like just standing in a corner pointing in a direction or taking care of your filled form by walking 3 meters to another person with it.

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      Every time I read news about Trump I always wonder what his end goal is.

      I interpret it as some combination of staying out of prison, getting richer, serving the demands of those who have blackmail on him and self aggrandization.

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        I wish EU's response was, that all US conpanies dealing with any government business in EU must comply to EU DEI rules

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        Including any American owned companies and their subsidiaries and franchisees operating on EU soil.

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        • A [email protected]

          Just to be clear for you and the people replying on this thread, we don't hate americans, we hate the asshole and his goons. I don't think you in particular should say sorry, unless you voted for him or didn't vote at all(while being able to), that is. But if you could vote and voted Dem, we don't think you have to be sorry.

          Many hugs to you guys!

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          we don't hate americans, we hate the asshole and his goons.

          Though we are increasingly frustrated by those Americans who are sitting on their hands, and not actively trying to save their country from the self-harm it is currently experiencing.

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            They're also just good business sense.

            Diversity, equity and inclusion are about making sure that you have a wide variety of perspectives represented within your company.

            Here's a really dumb anecdote that illustrates the point; Flaming Hot Cheetos were invented by a Latino janitor. He came up with the recipe, pitched it to higher ups, and through some serious persistence managed to get them to give it a shot. It needed a god damn janitor with the dogged persistence of a god to make that idea happen, because there was no one in the rooms where the decisions happened who was able to say "Hey, maybe we'd capture the Latino market better if we made flavours that appealed to them?"

            Diversity makes your business more effective. A diverse workplace can attract and keep the best talent. A diverse workplace can serve the broadest range of customers, and penetrate deeper into every market it targets. A diverse workplace can build a more healthy environment for all its employees, creating better productivity. These are all good things if you are a company that likes making money.

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            I love this example because flaming hot Cheetos are super popular outside the Latino market, too. I bet there's not a middle school in the country where kids don't love them.

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            • K [email protected]

              Every time I read news about Trump I always wonder what his end goal is.

              I interpret it as some combination of staying out of prison, getting richer, serving the demands of those who have blackmail on him and self aggrandization.

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              So a desperat attempt to survive the shit he is in, while still being the hot topic by create emotional engagement? Sounds more like an influencer or a cult leader...

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              • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                Summary

                Denmark and the Netherlands criticized Trump’s demand that foreign companies with U.S. government contracts eliminate diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI).

                Denmark called for a coordinated EU response, labeling the move a potential trade barrier.

                The Trump administration sent letters to European firms—including in France and Belgium—warning they must comply with a DEI ban or risk losing U.S. contracts.

                European officials condemned the letters, defending DEI as essential to corporate responsibility. The EU Commission is reviewing the situation, while the U.S. State Department called the effort a compliance measure.

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                I can only imagine that EU is just quietly finding ways to not be dependent on the US right now.

                What Trump is doing/does is unacceptable. But US citizens have been groomed to accept everything from their perceived leader.

                EU has not been groomed to accept these things. They know to just ignore while they can and get ready for a trade war, cold war, or any sort of war.

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                  Every time I read news about Trump I always wonder what his end goal is.

                  I interpret it as some combination of staying out of prison, getting richer, serving the demands of those who have blackmail on him and self aggrandization.

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                  Every move he makes, every word he speaks falls under one of those items. Spot on!

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                  • kuma@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                    Every time I read news about Trump I always wonder what his end goal is. Because he sounds so much like those end users who says unreasonable things like "you need to add/fix/change this" if it is done then they always comes back for more because they didn't get the end come they wanted and then it all turns out they wanted something that was reasonable (or not) but they demand changes that won't do that.

                    Is his end goal really getting more jobs?

                    And I wonder what kind of jobs he wish to create because a lot of Americans seem to have many weird jobs already like just standing in a corner pointing in a direction or taking care of your filled form by walking 3 meters to another person with it.

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                    His end goal is to become a dictator like Putin and turn us into serfs for the oligarchs while destroying the economy so his friends can buy everything up.

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                      Not really the message since the US pays big bucks for contracting, and these companies make a lot of money off it

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                      And they might decide on a whim that the contract is no longer valid for reasons made up yesterday.

                      Doesn't matter how much money the contract promises you if you can't know if it's going to be honoured.

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                      • kuma@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                        So a desperat attempt to survive the shit he is in, while still being the hot topic by create emotional engagement? Sounds more like an influencer or a cult leader...

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                        Cult leader is accurate.

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                        • cilethesane@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                          And they might decide on a whim that the contract is no longer valid for reasons made up yesterday.

                          Doesn't matter how much money the contract promises you if you can't know if it's going to be honoured.

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                          Yea anyways. Back here on planet earth where people are making businesses for money, US contracts are hella worth it.

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                            Yea anyways. Back here on planet earth where people are making businesses for money, US contracts are hella worth it.

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                            Were* worth it. It’s not going to be worth it anymore.

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                              Yea anyways. Back here on planet earth where people are making businesses for money, US contracts are hella worth it.

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                              Okay, I have a business offer for you: you deliver me a package of cookies every day and I'll pay you $1 million at the end of the month. Great offer right?

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                              • microwave@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                Summary

                                Denmark and the Netherlands criticized Trump’s demand that foreign companies with U.S. government contracts eliminate diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI).

                                Denmark called for a coordinated EU response, labeling the move a potential trade barrier.

                                The Trump administration sent letters to European firms—including in France and Belgium—warning they must comply with a DEI ban or risk losing U.S. contracts.

                                European officials condemned the letters, defending DEI as essential to corporate responsibility. The EU Commission is reviewing the situation, while the U.S. State Department called the effort a compliance measure.

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                                What a fucking bizarre, pointless demand from a country.

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                                  What a fucking bizarre, pointless demand from a country.

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                                  It's not even the worst ideologically driven madness Pushed on foreign nations. The George W. Bush administration used aid programs to coerce African nations to focus on faith based birth control initiatives (such as abstinence) during the HIV epidemic leading to absolutely massive numbers of infected across the continent.

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                                  • kuma@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                                    Every time I read news about Trump I always wonder what his end goal is. Because he sounds so much like those end users who says unreasonable things like "you need to add/fix/change this" if it is done then they always comes back for more because they didn't get the end come they wanted and then it all turns out they wanted something that was reasonable (or not) but they demand changes that won't do that.

                                    Is his end goal really getting more jobs?

                                    And I wonder what kind of jobs he wish to create because a lot of Americans seem to have many weird jobs already like just standing in a corner pointing in a direction or taking care of your filled form by walking 3 meters to another person with it.

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                                    Every time I read news about Trump I always wonder what his end goal is.

                                    Be adulated. Get a nobel peace price because Obama has one.

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      I love that this article expands DEI into diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's important to remember that diversity, equity, and inclusion are not primarily political devices, but a set of moral ideas meant to improve human wellbeing and harmony. DEI is used as a political device by people who are not driven by a desire for human wellbeing.

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                                      It's also useful to ask "if you don't support DEI, is it diversity, equity or inclusion you have an issue with?"

                                      Should certain people or certain kinds of people be excluded? Is that why inclusion is bad?

                                      What's bad about equity? Should things be inequitable? Should certain people get preferential treatment? If so, which people and why?

                                      Or, is it diversity that's the problem? Is uniformness important? Is it so important that it's reasonable to exclude people who don't come from the right backgrounds or don't look a certain way?

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                                        The obligatory follow up image

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                                        Or, replace the chain link fence with a dodgy internet stream of the game. It's unjust that some people don't get to see the game, and other people who paid for a ticket do.

                                        (only partially joking)

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                                        • nkat2112@sh.itjust.worksN [email protected]

                                          That is a very insightful comment and I thank you for sharing it with us all - and it bears repeating:

                                          Diversity, equity, and inclusion are a set of moral ideas meant to improve human well-being and harmony.

                                          Therefore, to be opposed to diversity, equity, and inclusion would imply that one is not driven by a desire for human well-being.

                                          I will remember this. Thank you. (Nice username!)

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                                          As much as it sounds good, this is not an argument that will convince anyone who is against DEI (and honestly while DEI usually seems implemented quite well it's not any better of an argument than "North Korea is called the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, so they're a democracy").

                                          The people that are against DEI mostly fall in 2 categories. One is flat out racists, which have no issues being against these values. The other are those that believe that the implementation of DEI is in some way bad and discriminatory. This is ime often based on sensationalized news about a few edge cases or stories that were twisted to a degree where they're basically made up. They don't need to be told that diversity, equity and inclusion are good values, they need to be informed about the fearmongering being just that.

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