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    Thank you for being a perfect example of the point I was making, enjoy your dead minorities and your roads paved in the blood of the innocent.

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    Ah yes, if you oppose capitalism too much, you just start hating minorities. That's just horseshoe theory. They wouldn't teach it in schools if it wasn't true.

    Definitely don't come to China, Vietnam, or Cuba and check for yourself, just trust your government.

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      Ah yes, if you oppose capitalism too much, you just start hating minorities. That's just horseshoe theory. They wouldn't teach it in schools if it wasn't true.

      Definitely don't come to China, Vietnam, or Cuba and check for yourself, just trust your government.

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      Honestly wouldn't go there if you paid me, but I respect the journalists brave enough to do so.

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        Honestly wouldn't go there if you paid me, but I respect the journalists brave enough to do so.

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        wouldn’t go there if you paid me

        Why? Vietnam is beautiful, experiencing towns built around bikes instead of cars and being able to buy good meal for 1.20 USD is good for your soul. China is the most developed country in the world right now, and I'm planning to go back in a month or so. I haven't been, but I hear Cuba has lovely beaches and rum.

        Were you under the impression these places were dangerous?

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          wouldn’t go there if you paid me

          Why? Vietnam is beautiful, experiencing towns built around bikes instead of cars and being able to buy good meal for 1.20 USD is good for your soul. China is the most developed country in the world right now, and I'm planning to go back in a month or so. I haven't been, but I hear Cuba has lovely beaches and rum.

          Were you under the impression these places were dangerous?

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          It's a single party autocracy with a very bloody history involving the west. Even if being abducted, tortured, and buried in an unmarked grave is the exception to the rule, it's still a hell of a lot more likely than a progressive nation.

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            It's a single party autocracy with a very bloody history involving the west. Even if being abducted, tortured, and buried in an unmarked grave is the exception to the rule, it's still a hell of a lot more likely than a progressive nation.

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            That's a bizarre claim to make when America has been abducting people, torturing them, and vanishing them, without due process for decades, and I am not aware of such a case happening in any of those 3 countries. Except in 2012, when China caught the CIA's spy network and charged them with espionage.

            As far as the bloody history goes, the blood is only on the hands of the side that invaded and subjugated them. Also the people here in vietnam are way less bitter about the war, despite having a much better understanding of what happened than the average american.

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              Ah yeah sure, taxing the rich, removing money from politics, making healthcare and bodily autonomy a human right, all such right ideals. /sarcasm

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              I don't think any of this happened last time the democrats were in charge? Or any other time before that. Seen from Europe, democrats are definitely right of center, just less so than republicans.

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                That's a bizarre claim to make when America has been abducting people, torturing them, and vanishing them, without due process for decades, and I am not aware of such a case happening in any of those 3 countries. Except in 2012, when China caught the CIA's spy network and charged them with espionage.

                As far as the bloody history goes, the blood is only on the hands of the side that invaded and subjugated them. Also the people here in vietnam are way less bitter about the war, despite having a much better understanding of what happened than the average american.

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                Sounds like whataboutism. I don't really recommend vising the USA. Maybe you should have higher standards than "very unlikely (citation needed) to be abducted and murdered by authoritarians".

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                  I don't think any of this happened last time the democrats were in charge? Or any other time before that. Seen from Europe, democrats are definitely right of center, just less so than republicans.

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                  The DNC haven't had more than 48 senate seats in over ten years, and just before that they expanded medicaid to tens of millions of americans.

                  Taxing the Rich was the Harris Campaign, with promise of a unrealized capital gains tax for earners over $1M USD, and enshrining Roe V. Wade as well as many other things in the list require defeating fillibuster, but even if the senate had changed the rules to bypass fillibuster: only 48 seats.

                  Quality of life has declined in the USA and progress has stagnated. And I know why. Only 48 seats.

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                    Sounds like whataboutism. I don't really recommend vising the USA. Maybe you should have higher standards than "very unlikely (citation needed) to be abducted and murdered by authoritarians".

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                    I just defaulted to USA because it's where I and (I think) most lemmitors are from.

                    In any case, it's trivial not to get abducted and murdered, simply don't commit espionage.

                    It's weird that you only single non-western countries out when most countries treat espionage pretty seriously.

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                      The DNC haven't had more than 48 senate seats in over ten years, and just before that they expanded medicaid to tens of millions of americans.

                      Taxing the Rich was the Harris Campaign, with promise of a unrealized capital gains tax for earners over $1M USD, and enshrining Roe V. Wade as well as many other things in the list require defeating fillibuster, but even if the senate had changed the rules to bypass fillibuster: only 48 seats.

                      Quality of life has declined in the USA and progress has stagnated. And I know why. Only 48 seats.

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                      All I'm saying is everything is further to the right in the US. These things you listed aren't even partisan issues here, they're just normal things. But I see you're just downvoting and arguing so I'll be on way cheers.

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                        I just defaulted to USA because it's where I and (I think) most lemmitors are from.

                        In any case, it's trivial not to get abducted and murdered, simply don't commit espionage.

                        It's weird that you only single non-western countries out when most countries treat espionage pretty seriously.

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                        You are not the one who will decide if you are a spy. Do not place your destiny in the hands of proven liars and murderers.

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                          You are not the one who will decide if you are a spy. Do not place your destiny in the hands of proven liars and murderers.

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                          No justice system lets the accused judge their own guilt, but the US admitted those guys were spies.

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                            They run TikTok among many other CCP funded operations, I wouldn't disregard them personally.

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                            Lol

                            The tankies engaged in hypercapitalism

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                              Ah yeah sure, taxing the rich, removing money from politics, making healthcare and bodily autonomy a human right, all such right ideals. /sarcasm

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                              That's what the democratic socialists and social democrats want, sure.

                              The rest of the Democrats call them radicals and Hakeem Jeffries just told them to leave the party.

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                              • flying_sheep@lemmy.mlF [email protected]

                                The fuck are you babbling

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                                .ml

                                You know exactly what I'm talking about, don't be all shy about it now

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                                  That's what the democratic socialists and social democrats want, sure.

                                  The rest of the Democrats call them radicals and Hakeem Jeffries just told them to leave the party.

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                                  It's core DNC policy stance. Even Hillary Clinton campaigned against Citizens United, even Harris proposed unrealized gains taxes over $1M, every DNC supports Medicaid expansion.

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                                    It's core DNC policy stance. Even Hillary Clinton campaigned against Citizens United, even Harris proposed unrealized gains taxes over $1M, every DNC supports Medicaid expansion.

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                                    We'll leave aside that those policies don't line up as well with your initial statement as we're pretending because that still leaves us at Jeffries telling everyone not a neoliberal to fuck off.

                                    Him and the other 94 Democratic reps that voted to honor a Nazi propagandist don't seem to have received the memo that's there's plenty of general policy to align on.

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                                      .ml

                                      You know exactly what I'm talking about, don't be all shy about it now

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                                      I just joined the devs’ instance for technical support reasons, not ideological ones. I'm certainly not a tankie, gross.

                                      So no, I still don't know what you mean with that “money”.

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                                        I just joined the devs’ instance for technical support reasons, not ideological ones. I'm certainly not a tankie, gross.

                                        So no, I still don't know what you mean with that “money”.

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                                        For examle, Russia spends enormous amount of money on foreign propaganda, both internaly and externally. That money.

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