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Men are opening up about mental health to AI instead of humans

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  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

    Yeah, but also one of them is helpful and the other is the exact opposite. If the choices are AI therapist or no therapist, you are still better off with no therapist.

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    I'm gonna need a source on that.

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      A profound relational revolution is underway, not orchestrated by tech developers but driven by users themselves. Many of the 400 million weekly users of ChatGPT are seeking more than just assistance with emails or information on food safety; they are looking for emotional support.

      “Therapy and companionship” have emerged as two of the most frequent applications for generative AI globally, according to the Harvard Business Review. This trend marks a significant, unplanned pivot in how people interact with technology.

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      I see a lot of people in this thread reacting with open hostility and derailment every time men's issues are mentioned. Have you tried not being a part of the problem?

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        A profound relational revolution is underway, not orchestrated by tech developers but driven by users themselves. Many of the 400 million weekly users of ChatGPT are seeking more than just assistance with emails or information on food safety; they are looking for emotional support.

        “Therapy and companionship” have emerged as two of the most frequent applications for generative AI globally, according to the Harvard Business Review. This trend marks a significant, unplanned pivot in how people interact with technology.

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        I think we may be (re)-discovering the appeal of monotheistic religions, and why they hew patriarchal.

        On average, men desperately need more mental health resources. But, on average, they are not comfortable building that with other men, and it often isn't appropriate or effective to lean on their female significant other (if a straight man).

        So - enter the primary description of 'God'. Can listen any time but will always forgive, is super masculine but won't emasculate you, and has never told another soul what you are thinking.

        AI is always available and is unlikely to emasculate anyone, but that third item... Well, we'll see where this goes.

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        • V [email protected]

          AI is what cracked my egg shell, fucking wild...

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          #281

          Well that's gotta be an interesting story! Don't leave us hanging!

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          • zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksZ [email protected]

            AI will reinforce delusional thinking. This is definitely not good.

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            more delusional people means more people that can make good music

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            • M [email protected]

              I don't think the open internet is a great place to open up about your mental health either. Trusted family, friends, and medical/mental health professionals are the best resources. Entrusting something as precious as your mental health to AI or the internet is a profoundly bad idea.

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              A local llm could (at least appear to) be the best option (on an individual scale) for people that would be reported by mandatory reporters (which mental health professionals are), such as suicidal people or murderers or pedophiles.

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              • W [email protected]

                LLM will not be able to raise alarm bells

                this is like the "benefit" of what LLM-therapy would provide if it worked. The reality is that, it doesn't but it serves as a proof of concept that there is a need for anonymous therapy. Therapy in the USA is only for people with socially acceptable illnesses. People rightfully live in fear of getting labeled as untreatable, a danger to self and others, and then at best dropped from therapy and at worst institutionalized.

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                yep, almost nobody wants to be committed to a psych ward without consent

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                  a terrible therapist at least has an ethics board

                  a terrible therapist at least has evidence-based interventions on their side

                  a terrible therapist at lest has the fact that ~80% of positive outcomes have nothing to do with the interventions or anything the therapist does besides show up and be cool (a statistic I remember quite well from grad school)

                  AI has none of these things

                  therapy isn't fucking magic. it's a relationship. you can't have a relationship with an LLM. there's no such thing as AI therapy, you're just training it to tell you about CBT worksheets while you bitch about your problems like you're in a nail salon

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                  a terrible therapist can lock you in a room, some people don't want that risk

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                    A profound relational revolution is underway, not orchestrated by tech developers but driven by users themselves. Many of the 400 million weekly users of ChatGPT are seeking more than just assistance with emails or information on food safety; they are looking for emotional support.

                    “Therapy and companionship” have emerged as two of the most frequent applications for generative AI globally, according to the Harvard Business Review. This trend marks a significant, unplanned pivot in how people interact with technology.

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                    Much easier if you just bury your feelings deep deep down. No repercussions whatsoever. The occasional psychic breakdowns but that’s normal.

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                    • R [email protected]

                      I see a lot of people in this thread reacting with open hostility and derailment every time men's issues are mentioned. Have you tried not being a part of the problem?

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                      There are people like that for anything related to AI.

                      Combine that with men stuff and this going to be crack for all of those people

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                      • V [email protected]

                        I think we may be (re)-discovering the appeal of monotheistic religions, and why they hew patriarchal.

                        On average, men desperately need more mental health resources. But, on average, they are not comfortable building that with other men, and it often isn't appropriate or effective to lean on their female significant other (if a straight man).

                        So - enter the primary description of 'God'. Can listen any time but will always forgive, is super masculine but won't emasculate you, and has never told another soul what you are thinking.

                        AI is always available and is unlikely to emasculate anyone, but that third item... Well, we'll see where this goes.

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                        #288

                        Omg self host it omg

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                          As long as the AI doesn't suggests violence.

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                          What if it suggests to engender conditions which may statistically be more likely to involve unintended unwanted violence? But also will make a lot of money

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                            A profound relational revolution is underway, not orchestrated by tech developers but driven by users themselves. Many of the 400 million weekly users of ChatGPT are seeking more than just assistance with emails or information on food safety; they are looking for emotional support.

                            “Therapy and companionship” have emerged as two of the most frequent applications for generative AI globally, according to the Harvard Business Review. This trend marks a significant, unplanned pivot in how people interact with technology.

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                            Sounds like the smart and sensible thing to do tbh, opening up to people in this day and age is just suicide

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                            • L [email protected]

                              are people using their brains or what?

                              What? No. Seriously, are you new here? And by here I mean Earth.

                              I see idiots all around me. Everybody only interested in advancing themselves. But if we advanced the group, it would be better for EVERYBODY.

                              But we as a species are too stupid to build a society that benefits everybody.

                              So no. No brain use here.

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                                I can kinda understand the appeal. An AI isn't gonna judge you, an AI isn't gonna leave a mean comment or tell you to get over it and man up. It's giving an unnerving amount of personal information to corporations, but I can sympathise with the thoughts these men are having.

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                                An AI isn’t gonna judge you,

                                Guess what is happening with that chat history.

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                                  A profound relational revolution is underway, not orchestrated by tech developers but driven by users themselves. Many of the 400 million weekly users of ChatGPT are seeking more than just assistance with emails or information on food safety; they are looking for emotional support.

                                  “Therapy and companionship” have emerged as two of the most frequent applications for generative AI globally, according to the Harvard Business Review. This trend marks a significant, unplanned pivot in how people interact with technology.

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                                  Unironically the "Men will do X besides going to therapy" meme

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                                    Unironically the "Men will do X besides going to therapy" meme

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                                    Even therapists are suffering these days. It’s just more challenging than it’s ever been to gaslight clients into believing their concerns about the world aren’t objectively true and instead the symptom of an internal struggle.

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                                    • R [email protected]

                                      I can kinda understand the appeal. An AI isn't gonna judge you, an AI isn't gonna leave a mean comment or tell you to get over it and man up. It's giving an unnerving amount of personal information to corporations, but I can sympathise with the thoughts these men are having.

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                                      It might even, gasp, offer solutions.

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        Become a rich jacked sociopath.

                                        That’s most manly thing you can do apparently.

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                                        Sorry, I will pursue happiness instead

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                                        • B [email protected]

                                          I never said it was the US, do rules and regulations governing doctors behavior not exist in your country?

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                                          IDK, really. As I said, I left the country where this psychiatrist lives.

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