Need to install templeOS on it

Most of this is because of some drama where they tried to port coreboot by lowballing some coreboot agencies who eventually told him to fuck off

The one guy running it is clearly some teen grifter who learned about dropshipping and web dev from AI

That "about" page is fucking wild. They spend like half the page sucking themselves off over how great of a job they did designing their own logo, and then the other half telling the user the proper way to reference the company and its products. I really want to spend some time on the live chat breaking all the rules, like not capitalizing every letter of their name...

wow havent seen anything this moody in a long while

Well, like all the attitude of Terry without the genius to back it up. The "about" pages and stuff just read like your typical "One superior genius started this company" grift myth.

Perfectly readable white text on a black background on my devices. The problem is on your end.

No soup for you!

Framework 16 does have a dedicated GPU option, and it's upgradable.

I was under the impression, from reading one of the developers write of his interaction with the owner, that they're just selling dropped shipped white label laptops.

They're simply add branding and a disk image which the white label manufacturer applies before shipping.

So it doesn't even seem to be an OEM... Just some guy trying to make an easy buck with some slick marketing and white label laptops... he just couldn't get the image setup and failed spectacularly in collaboration with the people who could help him.

But I notice that they don't say they'll ban everyone from Feddit...?

So, maybe there's some hope for them yet...

Just as a info, they are a Clevo reseller: https://linustechtips.com/topic/802163-clevo-custom-laptops-and-world-clevo-resellers/#comment-10086025

That probably also applies to a lot of other small size linux laptop companies that are not doing a lot of custom stuff in their laptops.

No publicity is bad publicity I guess?

The whole company is just the one guy. He obviously has mental health issues.

I like how they take a moral stance against Apple and Google, but then proudly display Boeing and the US Air Force as customers.

If they have the ability to accurately detect/enforce any of that, I'd be way more impressed with their fingerprinting techniques than any of the hardware they're selling

In the modern parlance, i believe that counts as an OEM but the more accurate term that no one uses is probably a VAR

...FW16 is a great Linux machine. It also had CAD drawings available that have been allowing me to sketch out possible physical modifications. It also has a PCIe 4.0 x4 available for either the GPU they sell or any other device that I decide to make.

What specifically about Framework do you think is a scam? I'd genuinely like to know since that's been the opposite of my experience.

You can buy better hardware for cheaper prices.

Framework exists to take advantage of naive people who are just trying to fit in with strangers on the internet.

You can indeed but better hardware for many purposes for cheaper.

Want a gaming laptop? Or a runs Linux out of the box laptop? FW is not even close to the best value there.

Want a laptop with well-documented physical specs, including CAD drawings to make readily modifiable and upgradeable, potentially being the last laptop chassis that one needs to buy? Nothing else comes close to touching FW.

I avoid ads, so, maybe they're inappropriately marketing as gaming laptops. I'd not call that a scam but would say that it's ethically questionable, at best. FW is a laptop for people prioritizing long-term repairability and tinkering over everything else.