Valve adds "all the Team Fortress 2 client and server game code" to its Source mod tools, letting modders "build completely new games based on TF2" and publish them on Steam
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This post did not contain any content.wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 18:26 last edited by
What a boss move by Valve
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Most players are using casual mode which is terrible. The community servers in TF2 are a pale shadow of what they once were.
wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 18:50 last edited byCasual's fine
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Casual's fine
wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 19:07 last edited byYeah you'd think that if you never played before it ruined the entire game.
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Yeah, as a resident Valve hater I agree it’s a weird thing to get angry over.
If there was anything to get angry over is that I bought this game in a box (stand alone because I was too broke for Orange Box!) with an understanding that it’s an online multiplayer shooter. Meaning, there are servers you join manually from a list, shoot at other guys for a bit and return to that server or not based on how good time it was. This functionality has been ripped out of the game and replaced with some weird algorithm. Before that Valve broke their own design promises of clear silhouettes which made the game less accessible. The game has been dead, riddled with bots farming in-game items that can be traded for real money that Valve added to the game because they could. If it was any other game I wouldn’t care but TF2 started out as an amazing game that was mangled beyond recognition by Valve greed.
They should have released TF2 source code this way 10 years ago. They’re probably doing this now because income from TF2 related items on Marketplace is probably laughably small compared to their other titles.
wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 19:08 last edited byI'm a Valve stan but it's disgusting how they've abused and neglected TF2. It would unironically be significantly better if they just rolled back every change since 2016.
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The only one ignoring things is you. You're ignoring my whole point. Which is that your personal bar for enshittification is lower than any of the definitions we've given in this thread, because it's basically "anything I think is bad is enshittification"
wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 00:48 last edited byYour point is that the issues don't affect the core experience, and I've explained how that's wrong, and you've ignored it.
You're also now blatantly mischaracterising what I've said.
If you want me to keep talking to you, I need you to tell me that you are actually curious to understand what I have to say.
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Your point is that the issues don't affect the core experience, and I've explained how that's wrong, and you've ignored it.
You're also now blatantly mischaracterising what I've said.
If you want me to keep talking to you, I need you to tell me that you are actually curious to understand what I have to say.
wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 02:49 last edited byNah I don't really want you to keep talking to me
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Nah I don't really want you to keep talking to me
wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 03:53 last edited byIn future you can just say that rather than talking in circles and making no sense. Goodbye.
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Yeah you'd think that if you never played before it ruined the entire game.
wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 04:40 last edited byI've played TF2 for years-- only, after Meet Your Match. (Wow this game is old...)
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"We'd prefer you didn't use the word "Source" in the game title. You wanna sell Black Mesa on Steam?"
wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 10:21 last edited byOnly a corporate officer that is fully enslaved by the lawyers of that corpo will not see how it's good business when humans engage with your product. When gamers play and interact with your code. It's pure folly to cite some trade war or corporate war with another corpo. No dude. Share with also other devs. Be a fucking human. You are not a corpo slave droid. I am so glad that valve is not publicly traded. Holy shit it must take a lot to be the leading company in this market and not bend to capitalist pressures
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Are you just unaware of Unreal Engine/Tournament (now Fortnite)?
They are the single biggest contributor to game development
wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 10:25 last edited byNah you are right but they actually do, but valve has also always done that. Dunno why you are so hated but I think it has to do with epics exclusive deals
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