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Amazon’s killing a feature that let you download and backup Kindle books

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    That's why I don't download or purchase ebooks from Amazon, but only get them from places I can download a non-DRM'd copy. I'm not looking to break any laws, but if I pay for it, I want to be able to have it whenever I want even when the Internet is down. Recently a buddy gave me his old blu-ray juke box, and now I'm doing the same thing with my favorite movies as well. And building a home lab. It's finally time I decreased (not completely ended) my reliance on the cloud, given the shit show my nation collectively voted for.

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      I felt the same about my Voyage, but I've resolved to move to kobo once it bites the dust.

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      I jumped from the Voyage to the Paperwhite when they switched to USB-C and added a warmth slider for the screen. It’s really nice, especially with an origami case (even if that case isn’t as nice as the origami case for the Voyage).

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        That's why I don't download or purchase ebooks from Amazon, but only get them from places I can download a non-DRM'd copy. I'm not looking to break any laws, but if I pay for it, I want to be able to have it whenever I want even when the Internet is down. Recently a buddy gave me his old blu-ray juke box, and now I'm doing the same thing with my favorite movies as well. And building a home lab. It's finally time I decreased (not completely ended) my reliance on the cloud, given the shit show my nation collectively voted for.

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        Holy cow i just looked up a blue ray "jukebox" used the sony 400 disc one is like $900. That's fucking crazy.

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          Can I root my 10 year old Kindle Paperwhite?

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          My 4th gen doesnt need it. I've got two D01100 models. I can literally plug them into my phone and copy paste books onto them. I google the book i want, download to my phone and just paste it into my kindke.

          Just don't attach an account to it and keep it on airplane mode. They can't stop anything. I've even got manga on it but that took a converter program on my laptop to make the manga into an epub file.

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            Iquit on Kindle a few years ago. The publicationsI read, like Asimov’s Sci Fi, no longer publish via Kindle. I use Book Funnel, Kobo, Pocket Book and store books on my desktop’s drive.

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              I jumped from the Voyage to the Paperwhite when they switched to USB-C and added a warmth slider for the screen. It’s really nice, especially with an origami case (even if that case isn’t as nice as the origami case for the Voyage).

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              A physical (or physical-ish) button is pretty much my main driver. I also like the little bit more freedom I'd have with a kobo.

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              • engineergaming@feddit.nlE [email protected]

                I just tried Calibre hoping it would help me get the metadata in my library in order... But maybe I am stupid, but I don't understand the purpose of this software. It apparently can't choose the MTP device as your library, only a folder on your computer? And only push the books onto the reader? I don't get how that's massively different from just copypasting the files into the reader. Is the main point convenient metadata editing?..

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                It's a library manager, like iTunes, or Plex for movies, Google Photos/Picasa for photos/images . You pick a spot for you library locally, and then your local lib is a jump off point to load in on to any reader device you want. It will understand what device you are pushing it to, and automagically convert it to supported file-types.

                The big difference with just copy-pasting is that you have a full library somewhere locally, and you can pick and choose what you load up on your reader. For me and maybe you, those lists are pretty close to identical, but what if you have a very large collection? And what if i just had to RMA my Libra? One click and a couple minutes after i receive my replacement, all of my books and reading progress will be synced back. If you had put your lib on the device itself, you would have had to rebuild it from scratch.

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                  That's why I don't download or purchase ebooks from Amazon, but only get them from places I can download a non-DRM'd copy. I'm not looking to break any laws, but if I pay for it, I want to be able to have it whenever I want even when the Internet is down. Recently a buddy gave me his old blu-ray juke box, and now I'm doing the same thing with my favorite movies as well. And building a home lab. It's finally time I decreased (not completely ended) my reliance on the cloud, given the shit show my nation collectively voted for.

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                  I pirate everything. Because fuck you that's why.

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                    A physical (or physical-ish) button is pretty much my main driver. I also like the little bit more freedom I'd have with a kobo.

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                    Yeah, I do wish they hadn’t killed the pressure button. But I tend to swipe anyway.

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                      This is why you never connect your kindle to the internet. Calibre forever

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                      This doesn't track.

                      To pull my books into calibre, I need to first download them onto the Kindle, which requires wifi.

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                        I just got a Kobo color (don't recommend the color feature; no book is ever going to use it except the red-letter Bible and House of Leaves) and gifted the old Kindle to a friend. I e-reader is an awesome gift actually because for a lot of people it's something they would never evenly in years take a chance on, but that they would love it if they tried.

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                        The color might make more sense if you're into manga or graphical novels as opposed to just ebooks

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                          Well fuck... Guess i'll need too look at what is available for ebook downloads i my arr stack to get books for my kobo.

                          The kobo store is mostly useless, and there are limited options available for buying ebooks here, so amazon has been the best option for likely finding what i was looking for.

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                          Yeah I looked into the Kobo store and a LOT of the books I have - which are not exactly small titles - aren't available there.

                          In some cases they've got the first couple books or audiobooks out of a series that currently has 10

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                            I get my books for my used Kindle off Libby because I have no expectation of ownership and I don't want to give Amazon the satisfaction of my money.

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                              That's why I don't download or purchase ebooks from Amazon, but only get them from places I can download a non-DRM'd copy. I'm not looking to break any laws, but if I pay for it, I want to be able to have it whenever I want even when the Internet is down. Recently a buddy gave me his old blu-ray juke box, and now I'm doing the same thing with my favorite movies as well. And building a home lab. It's finally time I decreased (not completely ended) my reliance on the cloud, given the shit show my nation collectively voted for.

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                              Where do you usually go to find the DRM free books? Sometimes for new books I am unable to purchase a copy without any sort of DRM

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                                I’ve got a kobo Clara HD with plenty of pirated books on it, works pretty well, would recommend

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                                Authors sometimes offer direct buy ebooks from their personal site so you can support the author directly.

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                                  That's why I don't download or purchase ebooks from Amazon, but only get them from places I can download a non-DRM'd copy. I'm not looking to break any laws, but if I pay for it, I want to be able to have it whenever I want even when the Internet is down. Recently a buddy gave me his old blu-ray juke box, and now I'm doing the same thing with my favorite movies as well. And building a home lab. It's finally time I decreased (not completely ended) my reliance on the cloud, given the shit show my nation collectively voted for.

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                                  I think it's worth noting that the bigger issue here might not be the drm, but the access Amazon has into your device. Regardless if you can download 'another' version of the book or not (that is something you can find out for yourself relatively quickly) there is no reason it should be considered ok for the company to insist that it can connect to a device you own and modify the contents of it. Even with ownership of the books being a topic, certainly there should be little questions of whether you own the device, and along with that being able to control access to it.

                                  Surely there is something in the user agreement that states accessing the download functionality also grants Amazon permission to go in and claw back things they've uploaded to the device, but i think that should be at least half the argument. Restrict whatever they want up front, I've downloaded it to my device and they consider that a fair exchange for my money, but to then say they screwed up on their end so they're taking it back (assumedly without giving up the money they made as part of the agreement) is where things should be breaking.

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                                    Do yourself a favour, switch to Kobo or a third party ereader...
                                    Especially if you're not in the US.

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                                      Crap, I'm still pissed at them over Dash buttons. They could have just stopped supporting them but NOOOO, they changed the setup site so it bricked them. I still have half a dozen uninitialized ones I can never use now. Fuck you, Bezos, and the giant stick up your ass you rode in on.

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                                        That's why I don't download or purchase ebooks from Amazon, but only get them from places I can download a non-DRM'd copy. I'm not looking to break any laws, but if I pay for it, I want to be able to have it whenever I want even when the Internet is down. Recently a buddy gave me his old blu-ray juke box, and now I'm doing the same thing with my favorite movies as well. And building a home lab. It's finally time I decreased (not completely ended) my reliance on the cloud, given the shit show my nation collectively voted for.

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                                        My wife borrows a lot of ebooks from our library, which are delivered to a kindle through Amazon. I’ve used this USB download option to remove the DRM from some of those borrowed books. Guess I’ll have to figure out a new approach now…

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                                          No I mean, now that I got caliber they block book downloads.

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                                          Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I've been in that position a few times, actually; though usually it's after I put it on a todo list. I was planning to switch to Linux, then Microsoft made Windows intolerable to use. I was wanting to buy a new laptop, then Tr*mp started a trade war. I had "back up my Amazon ebooks" on a todo for several months, and then this news comes out.

                                          It's like all of these companies and groups have decided to push me into doing stuff I wanted to do anyway.

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